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JRawk12
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| I just read on Matt's twitter page that Tyler hit a BF with his vehicle while in Va. last night, but no hair, or blood was found. Is there a complete story yet? |
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Bossburg
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 03:58 PM |
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That's interesting! No offical word to me yet, but we'll let you know when we know.
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bfsearcher
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 05:10 PM |
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| That would be ummmm hmmmmm...things that make you go hmmmm..lol well if you aske me,the chances are slim to none to hit a BF with your vehicle,we cant get hardly any evidence or good pictures or good videos but a team member hits one with his vehicle?? hmmmmm |
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Bossburg
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 05:13 PM |
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bfsearcher: Let's not go anywhere with this yet. Right now, it's a 2 sentence Tweet....when we know more, we'll post it.
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MattPruitt
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 06:17 PM |
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Tyler called me last night right after it happened. I was asleep at the moment, and got in touch with him first thing this morning. We talked for a long time about the event.
There is much more to the story than what MM tweeted, obviously. It's not my place to speak for Tyler, but I will say that he was very shaken by what happened, and no one knows exactly what he struck on the road.
Whatever the case, needless speculation will lead you nowhere. And to "bfsearcher"...
The majority of sightings come from motorists, and there are many stories of people hitting them with their vehicles. If you're driving around well after midnight in an area that has yielded multiple sightings and encounters, then statistically you'd be in the best position to see/encounter one.
Again: No one knows what was struck by the vehicle. Tyler was very shaken by the incident. Tyler is the only one who can describe the event, so please refrain from speculating with such little data until he decides to discuss it.
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wiiawiwb
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 09:29 PM |
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Seems hard to believe someone wouldn't know what they hit. Can't leaving the scene of an accident, with an injured party, be a felony in many states?
Did he stop the car and look for an injured person or animal?
How does a driver not know what he hit unless he was looking at something other than the road and thereby not paying attention to where he was driving?
Qt #1 - Was it on two legs?
Qt #2 - Was it hairy or wearing clothes?
It seems pretty straight forward to me. |
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Bossburg
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 09:59 PM |
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wiiawiwb: As Matt Pruitt states above, and I hope you have read, needless speculation will lead you nowhere. Let's wait until Tyler has time to make a post and then we'll know EXACTLY what happened.
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DaveBeaty
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 10:04 PM |
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I have hit a deer before in a 2000 Toyota Camry. The only reason I saw it was because it was daylight (dusk) and it was open field on both sides of the road. I was traveling 55 miles per hour, and the deer was injured because blood and hair were left on the vehicle but the deer ran off. I left without reporting it because no human was injured and I needed to make it home before all the antifreeze drained out of the damaged radiator, stranding my family.
Traveling slower through the woods at night and hitting a creature larger and more agile than a whitetail deer, I can understand the creature surviving and even not leaving any forensic evidence. But PLEASE check for evidence very closely. Just don't turn it into police for testing. If perchance DNA came back as 98% human, authorities would interpret that as evidence of a hit and run.
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cmknight
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| Posted: October 23rd, 2011 10:43 PM |
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I'm not going to speculate or say anything other than the fact that I am REALLY looking forward to reading about this. This is exciting!
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Cathy
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 12:26 AM |
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Who is Tyler Bounds?
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ezsquatchy
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 09:21 AM |
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| I hit and ran over a deer once. The only reason I knew it was a deer was because I killed it on impact and found it laying on the side of the road. If it had lived I might never have known what it was. |
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lost hiker
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 09:31 AM |
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| Tyler is a Washington state BFRO investigator who has been traveling with the "Finding Bigfoot" show to help with filming. He is a great guy who is very thoughtful and a fun person to be around. |
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ssm129
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 09:44 AM |
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| My husband hit a deer with his car 2 years ago. I was seated in the passenger seat and knew immediately that it was a deer because I watched it spin through the air away from the car. I definitely saw its spindly legs fly past the windshield. My husband was SO concerned that he may have hit a human that he stopped the car just to make 100% sure that it WAS a deer. I would think that if you were driving around with your headlights on at night and something as HUGE as a Bigfoot came in contact with your vehicle, you would know it. You'd be able to see it. |
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ssm129
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 09:46 AM |
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| In any case, it would be very interesting to hear what Tyler has to say about this incident. Not everyone can say that they accidentally hit a Bigfoot with their car. |
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goodmojo
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 11:44 AM |
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Hey everybody-
so here is how events of that night (Oct 22/23) played out. For the Virginia episode of 'Finding Bigfoot', the afternoon of Oct. 22 I had to go to an area 90 minutes away from our base, and set up some bait stations. Due to a lack of communication, I had to return to the area later that evening and set up some more bait stations. This kept me out in a remote mountain area until 1:25am (I noted the exact time I left so the show's field coordinator would know how long it would take to go to and from the site, for scheduling purposes.) As I left the gravel road and got onto a two-lane, curvy secondary road, I noted that it was very foggy, due to a large creek adjacent to the road, and because I was down in a hollow (or "holler", as the locals call them). After a few miles, I left the secondary road, and turned onto a two-lane highway, still shrouded in fog. It was now 1:50am. As I was driving the rental Dodge Grand Caravan, I looked down for a moment to set the cruise control and get myself up to 55mph, and was momentarily stymied by the amount of glowing buttons on the steering wheel (remember, I had been hiking all day long, both in the daytime and at night, and had spent a great deal of time sitting on my butt, so I was fairly exhausted). Now, this is where things happened, very quickly.
As I looked up from the steering wheel back to the road, I noticed a large (as tall or taller than the van), upright, all black "figure" stationary, on the centerline (or just to the right of the centerline). I say "noticed" a figure, but, in reality, as I looked up, I was right on top of it. The van shuddered, the drivers' side mirror was forcefully folded into the vehicle, and I felt and heard the object hit the side of the van behind me, like a slapping sound. I stopped the car, after some choice cursing and a lot of "what the f@#k?!?" and tried to look in the side mirror to see behind me, but the mirror had been cranked towards the van. I looked in the rearview, but the brakelights on the fog just obscured anything that may have been in the road. I then drove forward about 40 feet and turned the van around, and returned to the site. Only a handful of seconds had elapsed, maybe 10 to 12. There was nothing in the road, and no sign of anything having been in the road- blood, hair, guts, etc. I drove a bit further, turned around again, and again returned to the site. Parking the van on the shoulder, I immediately grabbed a FLIR that I just happened to have on standby mode, and I thermed the area for 40-45 minutes, while yelling out to whatever, or whoever I had hit. At that point, I was still thinking that I may have hit a person. Nothing answered, and there were no heat signatures anywhere. It was difficult so see anything though, due to the thick fog everywhere, even when I looked for a heat signature on the road. While I was parked on the shoulder, I inspected the vehicle, looking for hair, blood or flesh on the mirror and on the side of the van, but I found nothing by the light of my headlamp. After seeing or hearing nothing, I decided to leave the location. I had to drive about 15 miles before I had cellphone reception, at which time I attempted to call Matt Pruitt first (longtime field partner and one of my closest friends), and, after failing to get through to him, I called Cliff Barackman to share what had happened (according to Cliff, my call came at 2:47am). He suggested that I dictate what had happened into one of my audio recorders for posterity, which is a no-brainer, but I think I may have still been in shock, as I didn't even think of doing that. I pulled over into a nearby well-lit gas station to grab an audio gadget, and also to take a better look at the vehicle. It was then that I noticed the front left side of the van was badly damaged, with a dent running from just behind the headlight into the wheel well. I inspected for more evidence, but again was unsuccessful. There were smears on the dented area and on the side mirror, but it yielded no information as to what I had hit. I resumed driving and I recollected my experience into the audio recorder while it was still fresh in my mind. I returned to my hotel and immediately crawled into bed and slept.
In the morning everybody has heard the news, and the damaged area was further inspected for evidence, again to no avail. I desperately wanted to go back to the location to look around in the daylight, but our shooting schedule wasn't going to allow it, as I was needed on-site, in the field. But, as we came up on our lunch break, one of the shows' producers insisted that he and I go to the spot and look around. There was a lot of deer sign in the fields on both sides of the road, and a swampy creek meandered through and under the road very close by to where I had the encounter. We walked along both sides of the road for approximately 1/4 mile, but found nothing that would obviously suggest a sasquatch had been recently nearby. There were several deer lays and trails, and several rabbits were flushed out of the thick brush immediately alongside the road, but, again, nothing that would conclusively prove that a sasquatch had been there, and no blood trails were found either. Most importantly, to me anyways, we did not find a person in the brush, dead or alive, so that immense weight was lifted from my shoulders. We returned to the filming location, where in the meantime Cliff and Bobo had swabbed the vehicle in an attempt to retrieve DNA evidence, and those samples will be analyzed.
Until those results are back, we will never know for sure what I hit that night- it doesn't make sense to me that a human would be standing in the middle of a remote, foggy road at around 2am, wearing all black. Perhaps, if it was a sasquatch, it was there because of the abundance of deer in the area, which does make sense, and I just happened to be in the right place at the right time to have an extremely close encounter with it. I would also like to make clear that I never said that I DEFINITELY hit a sasquatch, the tweet that was sent by Matt Moneymaker was, in my opinion, very premature, with no verification or substantiation at that time, as I had not even returned to the site, and hadn't expected to be able to.
Again, I don't know for sure what I hit, and the most likely candidate would be a deer, but I have never before mistaken a deer for a sasquatch, and I am fairly certain it was not a deer, but, again, we won't really ever know what I smacked into that night.
If anyone has any further questions, please feel free to ask, and I will do my best to answer them. Thanks for your patience and understanding everyone.
(Edited by goodmojo)
Tyler Wm. Bounds
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RicknMs
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 11:59 AM |
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| Yikes! Any plans on going back in the daylight and looking around? Probably a really good thing you didn't hit it dead center though, that would have been bad for both of you. Tall dark, upright and took that lick from the mirror, a human would have been down, I'm sure. |
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HobsSquatch
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 12:17 PM |
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| Wow... if only you'd had a dash cam running! It almost sounds like it hit you rather than you hitting it, was that your impression? Good to hear that both you and the "figure" were (presumably) unharmed. |
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Simplicity
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 01:18 PM |
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Quote:
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Only a handful of seconds had elapsed, maybe 10 to 12. There was nothing in the road, and no sign of anything having been in the road- blood, hair, guts, etc. I drove a bit further, turned around again, and again returned to the site. Parking the van on the shoulder, I immediately grabbed a FLIR that I just happened to have on standby mode, and I thermed the area for 40-45 minutes, while yelling out to whatever, or whoever I had hit. At that point, I was still thinking that I may have hit a person. Nothing answered, and there were no heat signatures anywhere.
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Tyler, i may be way off here but...........
I don't suppose the FLIR would have picked up if anything was still on the Road would it ??
I mean, if something was on that Road IE a Sasquatch only maybe 20 seconds or so earlier ( ?? ), would a heat signature still have been there where it's feet may have been & where it was standing ??
I guess it doesn't really matter if you didn't think of it at the time & if it still would have been there, but interesting to know either way i guess..
Thanks,.
I have a feeling something BIG is gonna happen withn the world of the Big Guy soon.. Just a hunch of course.. |
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TRUTH-SEEKER
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 03:06 PM |
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Glad you're ok Bro, and nothing too severe happened. If whatever you hit or hit you vanished, then you must not of hurt it bad. And I'm happy for that. But man it would of been nice to have collected at least a couple hairs off the rig. Some blood would of been real nice, but that would of meant the figure got hurt, at least a lil hurt and we don't want that. I don't want that anyway. And I know you don't want that either. Oh, and I did say hello to your Cascades for you this week-end. Told them how much you miss em and are looking forward to seeing them again real soon. I must say though, it sounds like you had a bit more action than we did. Heard a couple possible calls and a Bugeling Bull Elk though. That was a first for me and it was awesome, the Elk. Anyway, glad you're safe and ok Bro. See ya sometime when ya get back to Wa.
"He who seeketh long enough and hard enough will find the truth, whatever that truth may be." Roger Patterson
“When you realize the value of a life, you dwell less on what is past and concentrate on the preservation of the future.” Diane Fossey 
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Leatherneck
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| Posted: October 24th, 2011 03:51 PM |
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That would have been perfect it it had happened on the 31st of October. 
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SilentJohn
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| Posted: October 25th, 2011 12:18 AM |
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Wow... if only you'd had a dash cam running! It almost sounds like it hit you rather than you hitting it, was that your impression? Good to hear that both you and the "figure" were (presumably) unharmed.
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I have my visor cam running day and night all the time when I'm in the country. That's how I caught that unknown on the first night I had it set up.
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aypapi
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| Posted: October 25th, 2011 09:05 AM |
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| Was there any other damage to the van besides the mirror. |
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BethinFL
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| Posted: October 25th, 2011 11:48 AM |
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| Glad you're okay. |
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goodmojo
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| Posted: October 25th, 2011 12:03 PM |
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Hello again all. My post above was left unfinished, as I had to pick up and go back into the field unexpectedly. I am going back to finish now, as this is the first chance I have had to get back online.
Tyler Wm. Bounds
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goodmojo
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| Posted: October 25th, 2011 02:05 PM |
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Wow... if only you'd had a dash cam running! It almost sounds like it hit you rather than you hitting it, was that your impression? Good to hear that both you and the "figure" were (presumably) unharmed.
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I have a Vosonic dashcam that I run constantly in my personal vehicle back in WA, but unfortunately, that isn't here with me. Situations like this one are PRECISELY why I have the cam, and had I had one running, this would be easily resolved. Another lesson learned, I guess.
Tyler Wm. Bounds
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jlseagull2004
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| Posted: October 26th, 2011 12:35 PM |
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Be Safe Bro...
Pore Gigantho I knew him not...... |
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TheForthcoming
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| Posted: October 27th, 2011 10:27 PM |
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Interesting story.
"The inclination to believe in the fantastic may strike some as a failure in logic, or gullibility, but it’s really a gift. A world that might have Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster is clearly superior to one that definitely does not."
— Chris VanAllsburg
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TheForthcoming
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| Posted: October 27th, 2011 10:30 PM |
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Anyway glad you're ok.
"The inclination to believe in the fantastic may strike some as a failure in logic, or gullibility, but it’s really a gift. A world that might have Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster is clearly superior to one that definitely does not."
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janej
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| Posted: December 20th, 2011 02:49 PM |
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| Unfortunately, it sounds like you didn't take any pictures of the van itself? A forensics expert may have been able to discern what sort of figure hit the van or was hit by the van by studying the dents, a biped or other animal. |
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MattPruitt
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| Posted: December 20th, 2011 03:55 PM |
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There were pictures taken of the damage.
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