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squatchdog
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I was camping in a remote location with BCsquatch and rkennedy. We decided to go for a walk at night and have a look around with night vision.
rkennedy left his audio recorder on and laying on the roof of his truck while we were gone. We were gone about 30 min. When we returned we listened to the audio recording. At one point we could hear bipedal footsteps around our camp site while we were gone.
The ground was to rocky for any footprints.
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chrislau
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| On August 26, 2006 at approximately 6:00am we had an encounter, we being me (chris), cory, and my father (stan) We were somewhere on a back trail in the old growth forest where the trail ended and above us was a massive ridge and below us was a valley full of bush and old growth. That morning a sasquatch came close enough for us to hear its breathing and growling, i have the sounds on my camcorder. I would say that the sounds would resemble to that of a gorilla, i could tell that it was a big animal by the deep sounds it was emitting. I believe that the sasquatch wanted us out of its territory and it did the job, real good. I stayed up all night before this encounter and heard heavy bi-pedal footsteps all through-out the night as well as two loud whoops at around 3 or 4 in the morning, i also remember hearing branches being broken, i am 99.9% sure that we were surrounded by a group of sasquatches all night. |
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sharonlee
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| Posted: July 10th, 2007 10:27 AM |
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| I have been reading the expedition notes of various jaunts and I believe that the researches take turns leaving the group of rookies and that is is them creating the hype i.e. throwing rocks, wood knocks and whoops. I'm sure it good fun for the people who pay for the experience. Like sitting around a campfire and telling ghost stories and getting everybody worked up until every rustling leaf sounds like a bi-pedal creature. |
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JimB
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| Posted: July 10th, 2007 11:24 AM |
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Sharon,
I'm disappointed that you feel as you do. I can state emphatically that the type of activity you describe does NOT occur. MM and the BFRO investigators are extremely serious as we go about our research on expeditions, public or private. There is absolutely no good to be gained by anyone hoaxing or "messing" with the "rooky" attendees. All of us in the BFRO have an absolute disdain for any type of hoax.
All reported encounters occurring on these expeditions are very quickly evaluated to rule out any possible human involvement. This is done by members of any group being in constant radio contact with other groups or individuals close by. If Bigfoot contact is suspected, one of the first things to occur is to determine if the encounter could have been human generated. If the encounter could have been or was human generated, it is immediately dismissed as such.
We at the BFRO are only interested in logging reports of encounters that are from suspected Bigfoot activity, not human activity. There is no need whatsoever to have members of any expedition "create" encounters for the entertainment and excitement of the “rookies”. People who pay their money to attend these expeditions would rather that no encounters occur rather than to have a hoax visited upon them.
I can confidently state from a previous conversation with Matt M. that if any of his investigators were involved in a hoax of any type, anywhere, at any time, that investigator would be immediately disassociated from the BFRO. Regardless of what folks may suspect about what goes on the expeditions, we are not in the business of providing entertainment for “rooky” attendees. The BFRO is seriously engaged in searching out the truths surrounding the creature known as Bigfoot.
The investigators involved with the BFRO spend their own hard earned money to voluntarily attend these expeditions to assist in varying capacities. There is nothing for anyone to gain by visiting a “hoax” on the BFRO’s paying clientele. The reputation of the BFRO and MM would suffer irreparable damage if the organization was “hoaxing” in any way. It is not needed, it is not tolerated.
You should consider attending an expedition to see for yourself what does and does not occur on BFRO public expeditions instead of suggesting ridiculous behavior without having first hand knowledge of that behavior.
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sharonlee
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| Posted: July 10th, 2007 11:34 AM |
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| I plan to in the near future. I did sign up for the Ohio expedition but it filled up too quickly. I can't wait. I am sure whatever i experience, it will be worth the money. |
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Navigator
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| Posted: July 10th, 2007 11:39 AM |
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chrislau
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| Posted: July 11th, 2007 01:03 AM |
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| I AM ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.....i wish you guys were around to hear the activity i heard, honestly. I may be a rookie but i have no intentions of hoaxing or creating any hype of some little occurences that i wish to believe was sasquatch activity. I sincerely believe that we were surrounded by these creatures the whole night and i have no doubt in my mind that it was authentic and not a hoax. Unfortunately we werent able to get any video footage, and very minimal sounds in terms of audio. I think you are just jealous of our encounter and you want one yourself so you hate, thats ok with me i would probably feel that way too if i were in your shoes. = ) |
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sharonlee
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| Posted: July 11th, 2007 09:12 AM |
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| just one good picture...... |
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PBYodeler
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| Posted: July 11th, 2007 10:32 PM |
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I'm one of the "rookies" that was on the Oregon expedition. Knowing the enviroment that we were in, it would have been impossible for anyone(including the investigators)to leave the group and do anything undetected. The thermal and infra red scopes that we had revealed everything that was going on around us in the total darkness, from squirrels to deer and even mice. The noises that were heard came from places that were inaccessable in the dark.
We don't expect everybody to believe in these animals. But we would prefer people to at least keep an open mind to the possibility that there is something out there, and that is what we are looking for.
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: July 12th, 2007 07:08 AM |
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When squatchdog, rkennedy and myself went for that walk it was around 2 am and we had been away from our camp for about 40 minutes. While we were gone rkennedys recorder did tape something bipedal that came into camp and then left. Additionally, we observed a squatch at night through a nightvision scope from 100 feet away for about 15 minutes or so. Secondary evidence of this was discovered by squatchdog and myself at about 7 am.
Blaine McMillan
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squatchdog
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| Posted: July 12th, 2007 02:18 PM |
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Quote:
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I have been reading the expedition notes of various jaunts and I believe that the researches take turns leaving the group of rookies and that is is them creating the hype i.e. throwing rocks, wood knocks and whoops. I'm sure it good fun for the people who pay for the experience. Like sitting around a campfire and telling ghost stories and getting everybody worked up until every rustling leaf sounds like a bi-pedal creature.
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bootpdx
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| Posted: July 12th, 2007 04:01 PM |
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Quote:
BCsquatch wrote:
When squatchdog, rkennedy and myself went for that walk it was around 2 am and we had been away from our camp for about 40 minutes. While we were gone rkennedys recorder did tape something bipedal that came into camp and then left. Additionally, we observed a squatch at night through a nightvision scope from 100 feet away for about 15 minutes or so. Secondary evidence of this was discovered by squatchdog and myself at about 7 am.
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100 feet away for 15 minutes? WOW. That must have been one hell of a sighting. Can you elaborate on what the subject did for that 15 minutes? Was it aware you were there? Was it watching you? Please, please give me more! 
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: July 12th, 2007 09:10 PM |
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Yes,
It was aware that we were watching it and after a while it got bored with us and left the area.
There was a bit more to the incident but as an investigative tool I am refraining from releasing the details.
Blaine McMillan
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bootpdx
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| Posted: July 14th, 2007 02:22 AM |
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Very interesting.....thanks for sharing
Perception is key. |
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manticora
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| Posted: July 14th, 2007 07:39 AM |
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Wow. I´m lookinfg forward to when the first thermal images get recorded!!
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: July 18th, 2007 02:26 PM |
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Hopefully this year's Vancouver Island expedition will give us the evidence that we so desperately need .
Blaine McMillan
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matt4632
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| Posted: July 18th, 2007 10:38 PM |
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| So with the thermal thing was it just allowing you to see or could u take pictuers or video? |
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Mark_OC
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| Posted: July 18th, 2007 11:15 PM |
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Hey BCsquatch,
I do not understand how keeping details of a sighting under wraps helps other people to understand the nature of this animal and therefore increasing the chances of obtaining conclusive proof about "Squatch".
I am moving to Nanaimo in the fall so hopeully we can have a cuppa one day and I can learn from your experiences.
As a side note I am planning to get a sailboat to live on and would there be good locations that are boat access only that would be good to goto??
Cheers
Mark O'C
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bootpdx
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| Posted: July 19th, 2007 01:05 AM |
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Sounds like they got some thermal footage in MI.
Perception is key. |
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: July 19th, 2007 01:27 PM |
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Mark,
Where are you moving from?
And...
Will you be in Nanaimo in time for the expedition on the Island (13 - 16 Sept)?
If you are maybe you should consider signing up for it.
(Edited by BCsquatch)
Blaine McMillan
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Mark_OC
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| Posted: July 19th, 2007 11:43 PM |
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Hey BCsquatch,
I'm arriving sometime in Sept or Oct, I'm going to be sailing a boat up from LA where I lived for the last few years so my arrival will probably be just after the expedition, I tried to get on the Ontario expedition, (am in Toronto for a couple of months) but have no vehicle here so I never heard back from anyone.
Anyway, I plan on living in Nanaimo for quite a while so I'll just have to make the next one, do some exploring and hang some cameras in the meanwhile.
Cheers
Mark O'C
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Randy
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| Posted: July 20th, 2007 03:51 PM |
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| Mark, that sounds like a blast, man! Have fun and godspeed! |
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Mark_OC
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| Posted: July 20th, 2007 05:30 PM |
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Thanks Randy,
I'm really looking forward to the cruise, the west coast is amazing from the water and I've never sailed this much of it before.
Cheers
Mark O'C
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Randy
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| Posted: July 20th, 2007 07:56 PM |
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excellent!
Probably an obvious question for those who have attended expeditions...I have often wondered why when some of you guys are in great position where you are interacting with a BF, and he's close--say 50 yards, why no one seems to just make a dash for them? Perhaps with a spotlight blaring in the direction. You'd think it would at least get some action going instead of being in total observation mode where the BFs are controlling it, and you guys aren't really getting any more evidence than you already had. Be more "aggressive" as it were. |
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PBYodeler
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It has been tried on at least one expedition where one over anxious participant used a bright spotlight and the action that they were gettng with the bigfoots ended there. The expedition's don't try to interact with them but get them to come close enough for video and audio recording and until recently the night filming capabilities weren't as available as they are now.
Remember that we are in their home and they are very wary. It's their curiosity that we count on to bring them in. They're very smart animals and faster than we could ever hope to be in the dark forest so "hunting"them and chasing them isn't an option when we want to see them. Being more aggressive in the search for bigfoots is probably what keeps a lot of searchers from finding a bigfoot.
I've only been a BFRO member a short time but I trust the judgment of a group that has been developing their methods and learning the bigfoot's habits for almost twenty years.
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squatchdog
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| Posted: July 21st, 2007 02:29 PM |
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Running after a Sasquatch in the dark forest with a spot light will put an end to everyone's encounter for the night.
It is a thought that has crossed my mind a couple of times. But you must take other peoples interests into consideration also. That would have to be a solo project unless everyone agrees.
I once had an expeience were a Sasquatch suddenly moved in the bush at night about 15ft. from my position. Then I could hear no movement at all. I got my spot light out and searched the area for a good 15-20 min. and found or heard nothing. And it was right in the area.
I think if I was watching a Sasquatch with my night vision from 50ft. or less and then grabbed my spot light and gave chase I would have no chance in getting a better view.
In the areas were some of these encounters happen you could not run through the bush, especially at night.
Also the last thing you want to do on a BFRO expedition is to start flashing a spot light around. That would not help to draw them in to your position.
I would love to get a clear bright view of a Sasquatch. If I ever see one in the open at night my spot light would be the first thing in my hand. It just never seems to work out like that. |
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daveillig
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| Posted: July 23rd, 2007 01:18 PM |
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Hey BCsquatch,
If you were using IR Night Vision, did you sense that the Sasquatch saw the IR? And if so did it seem to even care?
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Dave
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BCsquatch
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No, I do not think that the 'squatch was affected by the nvg as it is a gen1 starlight military scope. There were three of us walking up a gravel road and I am sure that it had heard us approaching. In fact it must have heard us and yet it did not leave the area. When we saw it we stopped and did not advance any farther. The fact that we were quite an elevation difference below it may have made us appear smaller and non threatening too. Rob kennedy has always maintained that if you see one you should crouch down while maintaining a visual contact. For some reason incidents last longer because you make yourself smaller. I don't know why but Rob has had a lot more experience in this than I have and it works for him.
I don't know if I mentioned this but at one point we had lost sight of it as it had crouched down and crept to the lip of the hill to look down at us. When it stood back up and walked away it was skylit against the night sky until it went back into the trees. squatchdog and I found tracks and broken vegiation when we check the area in the morning. Where we saw it was only a ten minute walk from our remote camp and in the morning I saw loads of secondary signs that I had not seen when I drove into the place the night before.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.
Blaine
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daveillig
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| Posted: July 24th, 2007 03:54 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification. I often wonder what my first encounter will be like and what the best reaction should be during a close encounter. Submission is the first thing that comes to mind!
Thanks again
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: July 24th, 2007 04:55 PM |
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Trust me it is really tough to hold your ground when the rocks start coming in on your position.
Blaine McMillan
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