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Thursday night was better than we expected. We found several tree signs but they were old so we didn't expect to have any results in that area and it was already getting dark so we didn't have time to go to another area. We decided to stay there for the night and give it a try anyway. There were seven of us that were there that night and all we did was sit around the campfire and talk until very late. We did make a few calls and we were able to hear the call blasts and howls from the other groups. There were several solid replies to some of the calls and we could hear something in the forest around the campfire on two or three occasions. After we went to bed, I slept in my car (too lazy to set up my tent), three of the others slept in their truck , one slept in his tent, one in the back of a pickup, and Robert slept on the ground by the fire. Sometime during the night we had a visitor. Three of the guys, the ones not in their vehicles, were awakened. Dave,in his tent, was awakened by something touching his tent. Adam, in the back of the pickup, heard something walking around the camp. And Robert was awakened by the same thing. Of course the battery in my recorder died before any of this happened so i just got hear about it in the morning.
Friday night wasn't quite as exciting but we did hear several good clear howls. We did the same thing, just sitting around the camp fire.
Saturday night was actually the best. The main part of the expedition went into the area that we were in the previous night and we went to a gravel pit that was the focused on earlier in the week. Same thing, just camping. Robert's wife an kids were with us this time. While we were sitting around the fire some of us saw eye shine on the ridge above the camp several times and we could hear rocks and gravel being tossed down the embankment. Again, we had a visitor after we went to bed. I had set up my tent this time but I gave it to one of the others who hadn't brought one of his own. I slept in my car again. I put the fly on the tent this time because it was cloudy and looked like it might rain. There was no wind and I set it up in a sheltered corner of the gravel pit. I woke up about 6 am and got out of the car to answer the call of nature and found the fly from my tent laying on the ground in front of it. Robert's wife, Debra also heard something walking through the camp in the night and asked Robert to put the dog in the van with their kids but he was already in there with them. Whatever took the fly off my tent had to walk right past my car so if it did I think I got it on audio. I just haven't had time to go over the recording yet.
I'll let you guys know what I get there when I've had time to go over the the recording.
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| Posted: September 18th, 2007 02:26 AM |
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WOW! You should have been there last night!!!! (Sunday night)
My husband Mike and I decided to stay another night at camp and hopefully find some other people who wanted to go back out again. (We hadn't been up to the gravel pit at night yet)
Robert and his family, Alex and Aaron were the only people left there that day.
Robert invited us to go with him out there that night (Thanks Robert!!!!!!)  It was pouring rain and very dark already by the time we ventured out. We took two cars, Robert's van and our Rodeo and headed up the road towards the gravel pit. I'd say about half a mile or so before we had planned on stopping we shut off all our lights and opened the windows to listen for knocks (didn't hear any) and drove slowly up the road in the dark.
We stopped and parked (shut off our dome lights too) and quietly got out our cars. We sent Alex and Aaron up the raod about 200 yards on foot to try some of Aaron's "moans". (We had heard he got a knocking response that morning at ****). Robert, Mike and I stayed by his van and communicated in whispers by radio to the guys. We all sensed that they were very close and heard steps in the woods close by. I had a "feeling" they were near the side of the van but couldn't see anything. Then a car came from up the road and blew our cover!
So...we repeated the same thing down the road..lights out and very quietly. Sent the guys up the road again and told them to stand shoulder to shoulder next to each other facing opposite sides of the woods. Aaron did a series of three moans. He raidioed back and said that a rock had just hit him in the chest and asked what he should do? Robert told him to moan again. He did and next time they threw a little bigger rock which landed next to Alex.....then they hurried back a bit shaken up! 
Well I was really excited because I had never experienced that before and I wanted to go out with them! SO we repeated the procedure the exact same way except this time I walked down the road with them.
Arron moaned...we waited..he monaed again...we waited...then again and waited, listening very quietly. Nothing happened. Alex tried to radio back to Robert but his batteries went dead and we lost contact....sooo we stood there for a while and then Alex turned to us and said "it didn't feel Squatchy", and Aaron and I agreed. Alex was in the middle of his next suggestion to head back towards the van when a big rock about the size of base ball landed right behind him!! Well..He screamed really loud (sorry Alex ) and started running down the road! Mike and Robert heard the sream and didn't know what in the world was going on so they rushed down the road towards us to see what happened!!
As for me I was just thrilled to death to actually have had an experience like that! I know there is no other explanation for what happened becuse I saw it and heard it myself! Everyone had a bit of a fright but I thought it was awesome and I was thankful we decided to stay that one more night! I wouldn't have wanted to miss that!!!
We got ahold of Matt and his crew and they came out with all their equipment to check it out. They stayed out there for quite a while after us becuse we had to leave early in the morning. I will be looking forward to hearing if they got anything that night on film?
Thanks again to everyone! It was so nice to meet you all and can't wait to do it again! Jeanne
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Hmm, wish I had stayed Sunday night. Good to hear you guys had some more interaction in the area of that gravel pit, I'll have to check it out some more in the coming weeks. I'm interested in hearing how Matt and crew made out in the area.
Overall I can't add much more to what had already been said as my experiences were summed up already. I thought it was a great expedition, an oppertunity to hear clear and distinct vocals and best of all to meet some people actively involved in the study of this animal. I'm looking forward to future congregation both in the field and online with some of the people I had the pleasure of meeting on this trip. |
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daveillig
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 11:10 AM |
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I just returned from the Vancouver Expedition with no real earth shattering encounters. The wood knocks, vocalization, whistles and call blasts we conducted did produce some response, but nothing that would indicate any sizable group activity. Being that this was my first BFRO hosted expedition, I was able to come away with a greater understanding of sustainable habitat and habits of BF. I also realized what my personal weaknesses are as far as being prepared and ready, no matter what my situation is.
Each of the three nights in which I had participated had been preceded by a fair amount of examination into the factors supporting any BF activity. We were free to team up with who ever we choose, and I choose Rob Kennedy. Rob made it easy for group members to voice an opinion or share knowledge of what could be useful in increasing the odds of an encounter. We evaluated the data and a collective decision was reached on where to focus our efforts. After a substantial effort to reach our primary target failed, our second choice was in an old growth forest 150 yards from a river. We were later met by three other BFRO groups and quickly developed a network of satellite camps covering about one square mile and multiple elevations. This enabled the whole group to share information in any BF response that would otherwise go undetected. It worked! Our group heard a response that was too faint for the other groups to hear.
After a few hours of sleep I was partially awake at about 3:30. During this time I heard something approaching the camp site through the undergrowth. Struggling to become more alert, I found myself unable to move or do anything. I attribute this to being very exhausted. All I could do is listen, and I could do that. Our camp site was very quiet and the fire was completely out! Being separate from the rest of my group by about 25 feet, I felt a bit vulnerable and began dealing with fear as the sound kept getting closer. I didn’t want to radio Rob since all groups were monitoring the same channel, and I didn’t want to bother anyone who could be sleeping, so I tried to just get his attention by calling his name. I couldn’t even do that! Since I was in a one man tent without windows, I couldn’t see him to determine if he was recording whatever was approaching our camp. Now I was worried that by getting up and out of my tent, I would scare it (whatever it was) off and I could ruin a “Kodak moment” that might be in progress. Therefore, I didn’t continue to try to wake up. I figured it was probably a deer or something. I then began to fall back asleep, but not before, I felt something pressing softly on my right side. I was sleeping on my left side facing the others camped around the fire ring. This really elevated my fear level and I was able to work up enough strength to jerk my body away as if to say, “Get off me!” I guess I was too tiered to do anything because I then just laid there listening to it (whatever it was) move away the same way it approached.
Later when everyone started getting up, I went to Rob and asked if he herd anything last night, and he said frankly, “yes I did”! “I heard something walking all around our site”. He described the exact same sounds that I heard. So that’s when I told him what I experienced, saying I must have been exhausted and only imagined what took place. He replied, “That’s exactly what so many people have reported, while out camping”. Apparently, this is one of the things Saquatch will do in an inquisitive sort of way, just gently touch people while they’re sleeping….
If that is what happened, it freaked me out! However, I can’t say for sure because I was apparently too tired, which is strange since I normally wake up between 2:30 and 3:30 am every day.
There you have it…
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CKnaub
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 12:32 PM |
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Daveillig, are you saying that a Sasquatch gently touched you while you lay in your tent or did you mean it was a gentle mental overpowering (infra sound) so that you could not get up or feel completely alert?
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 01:20 PM |
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Jeanne, you say you got a hold of Matt and his crew, were they not with you? How far away was their camp?
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daveillig
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 01:44 PM |
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I can’t say I am familiar with infra sound, much less know if I have been affected by it. It was brought to my attention as something that BF might be capable of using. I have to admit, I’m at a loss here. All I know is I was definitely aware of the sounds around me, and I fought desperately to move away from what touched my side. One thing I might add is that I remember having rolled onto my left side and having my back against the side of the tent. Since the side is sloped, the side of my body was in a way, exposed. If something were to touch the tent, it would be touching me as well. I could hardly move, and was so stressed by this I fell asleep again for an hour or more. After that, I awoke just fine.
I hope I answered your question.
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Jeanne
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 02:16 PM |
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No, Matt wasn't with us in the beginning when all that happened. After the last rock throwing incident Robert called him on his cell phone back at the hotel he was staying at. It took them about half an hour to get there.
We stayed on with them for a while after they got there but had to leave about 2:00am because we had to catch a ferry early in the morning unfortunately.
I haven't heard back from Matt or anyone else yet about what happened after we left.
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| Posted: September 19th, 2007 05:02 PM |
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Daveillig, thanks for the reply.
That is absolutely fascinating to hear although distressing for you. I've been reading on this site for more than a year and have heard of similar incidents. One that comes to mind was of a group of girls camping and the girl whoses sleeping bag was farthest out had a bf put it's hand gently on her back and that was all she remembered until she awoke in the morning. She was terrified and could not do anything when 2 of them approached the campsite and one actually slightly stepped on her foot/leg. After that is when it touched her.
As far as the infrasound, it is theorized that bf can emit sounds that are not audible to us but can possibly affect our perceptions and thought processes. Look for "infrasound" in the older threads. There were a couple of spirited discussions with posts from some who had experienced something to that effect. There are also various reports by eyewitnesses that stated that they seemed to become paralyzed by fear and couldn't move or other odd sensations.
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: September 20th, 2007 05:23 PM |
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For all Van Isle expedition attendees,
Although I welcome you to report your occurrences here could you please send me a copy of what happened to you to my yahoo email address.
With the information you send me I will be able to build a more complete picture of what took place and then submit a final "official" report to Matt for him to post.
THanks
Blaine
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| Posted: September 20th, 2007 07:09 PM |
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| there is alot more that has happen then what you see we are working on it and we will send it to you ,,, great stuff !! |
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| Posted: September 22nd, 2007 03:26 PM |
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Hey Blaine....
I'll put something together about my experience's and locations for Thur. Fri and Sat. I'll send it to your yahoo address.
I had a great time, met some cool people and learned alot. |
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Hey,
I live on Vancouver Island in Victoria. I tried to come on this trip but I was told I was too late in registering. I have also tried emailing a couple of times since but haven't had a response.
I'm an avid believer in Sasquatch. I've got a really close friend who's a realtor here in town who has seen one. Also I have a few other friends that have had experiences too. Such as being screamed at in the woods, boulders being thrown at them. etc.
I have about six friends with myself that are planning to go up to the Nitnat or maybe Strathcona Park to do a exploration. However I would much rather be part of a group like yourselves.
My email is beaumont_robert@hotmail.com if you are ok to email me. I really want to go out on an expedition.
I am glad that you guys had some fun upisland.
Talking about the Nitnat, I had a friend who went camping up there who saw a brush and branch covered den where a half eaten deer carcass was laying beside it.
Vanouver Island has to be one of the best locations for finding Bigfoot.
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Jeanne
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| Posted: October 1st, 2007 04:35 AM |
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Hi Bob!
It is too bad that you weren't able to attend the expedition but it sounds like they will be having a lot more in the future (even in BC) so maybe you will be able to make one of those!
I think you are right about Vancouver Island. Since I have been there and know what it is like I have been reading a lot more of the reports from that area!
If it wasn't for the cost of the ferry ride I'd love to go there as much as possible! I know there are BFRO members on Vancouver Island so maybe one of them will contact you. It sounds like you have some interesting stuff happening around you!
Jeanne
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Thanks.
I really want to attend one of these. If I don't hear back I guess we'll just do our own and post information here. I already have about five or six people who are very interested in coming. One of my good friends from Yellow knife wants to come too.
I'm pretty excited about this.
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| Posted: October 4th, 2007 07:44 PM |
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daveillig
read your report with great interest. two questions: can you be sure it wasn't a bear or racoon? And, did you check your camp area for footprints, impresions, other signs of big bipedal?
sorry if the questions are redundant. Again. read the account with great interest. I wonder what the bf are thinking coming into camp like this? Curious beats. It's like they are the opposite of their daytime selves: daytime flight, nighttime poke and pry....
anyone else notice this, have any theories? Is this dual nature observed in other nocturnal species?
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| Posted: October 4th, 2007 09:02 PM |
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I was in the same camp that night and we're sure it wasn't a bear or racoon. The night before we roasted hot dogs over the campfire and opened a can of chili to put on them. When we went to bed we left the remaining buns and weiners and half a can of chili out in the open beside the campfire. in the morning these things were not disturbed. I'm pretty sure one of these animals would have cleaned up after us if it was one of them. Earlier in the evening some of us were hearing noises in the forest around us as if something was trying to be quiet and still remain close enough to get a look at us.
They are curious animals but they don't want to be seen. They're more comfortable coming close if they can maintain control by staying hidden. That's why they will wait until we're asleep and it's dark to come satisfy their curiosity. They may be curious about us for the same reason we are about them. Other than their size and hariness they're similar to us in appearance so I think they look at us the same way. They want a closer look at the little hairless things that have ventured into their back yard.
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Hello everyone,
I wanted to take a minute and introduce myself. I'm Kate, I'm a 27 year old female living in Massachusetts. I grew up in Vermont and have been an avid horseback rider since early childhood. I have a huge love for the outdoors and sasquatch has always been a huge interest to me. I believe that I've had a few possible vocalizations but at the time, never realize what it could have been. I've also talked to friends who have related their stories to me, no actual sightings but a stalking story in Vermont that sounds very classic to some of the reports I've read. I'm dying to go on an expedition and I'm hoping to do so in 2008.
I currently work with primates, mostly Rhesus and Cynos, which are a far cry from a sasquatch, but I'm guessing that they might possibly have some of the same body language and signs. I tried to make it to the New York expedition a year or so ago and I remember speaking on the phone to Matt at the BFRO but unfortunately I just wasn't able to attend.
If anyone is close to me and wants to meet up and maybe do some hiking/scouting around in the woods, please drop me a line. My email address is A123catwoman@yahoo.com.
Hope everyone is doing well.
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Bossburg
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Kate: Having problems with this board. You must register prior to posting, although I see you did not. A setting must have gotten changed. Please read the posting guidelines in the READ THIS FIRST section and place your intro there.
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| Posted: October 5th, 2007 07:02 PM |
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No, Matt wasn't with us in the beginning when all that happened. After the last rock throwing incident Robert called him on his cell phone back at the hotel he was staying at. It took them about half an hour to get there.
We stayed on with them for a while after they got there but had to leave about 2:00am because we had to catch a ferry early in the morning unfortunately.
I haven't heard back from Matt or anyone else yet about what happened after we left.
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| Posted: October 5th, 2007 10:19 PM |
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So far Matt has taken a very active part in the expeditions and is usually one of the last ones to go back to base camp after a night out in the forest. Next year there will be too many of them for him to take part in them all. The night in question here was after most of the expedition participants had left. This being a Sunday night the expedition was technically over but a few of the attendees had stayed an extra night just to avoid the long lineups at the ferry terminals. I had to go home on Sunday and the wait was almost eight hours just to get on a boat. Matt, I believe, was back at his hotel getting ready for his trip home the next day. He will,however, drop what he's doing and go back out if there is promising activity going on.
Hope this answered your question
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Jeanne
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| Posted: October 6th, 2007 04:17 AM |
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Thanks Darcy!
Yes M*** was out every other night with us. We decided to stay another night since we had time off from work and found out Robert was going out too.
M*** was in town but came out to meet us as soon as he found out what had happened. He actually stayed out there later than we did!
Jeanne
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| Posted: October 7th, 2007 10:36 AM |
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Thanks! Sounds like a great experience. I have often wondered about SAsquatch presence on Vancouver Island being that it is so undeveloped.
Jeanne- not sure what the *** is for, I think most people on this board know Matt's name and history, but thanks anyway.
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| Posted: October 8th, 2007 01:43 AM |
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I heard that some of the local people from the Vancouver Island Expedition have been out to the area again......
I was just wondering if they have anything to report about the area recently?
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| Posted: October 8th, 2007 01:24 PM |
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Hey cadiddy,
Daveillig here… To answer your question, I’m confident what touched me wasn’t a raccoon due to the size of the pressure area on my rib cage. The area was the size of a human hand. The amount of pressure was about 1-2 pounds of pressure. That’s what scared me so much. I couldn’t believe something was checking me out! The sounds before and after this were slow steps from something making its way through the low vegetation. It hadn’t rained for a few days, so there were enough dry sticks that I could hear them breaking slowly and quietly. In the morning, we did look for tracks. The only one we found was down in the riverbed and it was several days old. Although it was a difficult track to really distinguish, we measured it and the best we could determine is that it was about 12-14 inches long. The duff in the old growth forest is difficult to find tracks in, but we did try. There is something I want to add here regarding people getting touched while inside there tents.
I attended the opening “Bigfoot” exhibit at the Washington State Capitol and was very impressed at the attendance and the information presented. A group of us met for dinner at a local restaurant, and during our discussion, the topic of encounters regarding “being touched in tents” came up. Several asked about my experience. Several also mentioned that they have had similar experiences. Out of eleven at the table, four of us had been touched or had seen something try to touch them while inside their tent at one time or another. That rather shocked me! Now that I look back on it, I was in a special group of people that will go out of there way to experience some form of encounter. But still, it was interesting.
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| Posted: October 8th, 2007 01:32 PM |
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| kate if you would like to know more pm me and i will tell you alot about them i have seen them many times just read my post you will get agood under standing rkennedy |
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BCsquatch
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| Posted: October 10th, 2007 02:21 AM |
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Dave,
On the Thursday Night down at the river at about 1230 myself and my crew were crashing out. Three of us were grouped together in our tents. As I started to fall asleep I felt my arms and legs tingle as if they were crawling with ants, like static electricity. I was not afraid and was aware of what was going on. Cindy was in her tent next to mine and she suddenly said "Did you feel that?" I did not but she descibed it as being lioke someone dropped a very heavy stone beside her tent. There was no stone there. Shortly after that something swiped my tent, half way between the bottom and the top and right above my head. It was not a branch in the breeze... no branch and no breeze. It was deliberate and I was unafraid. Looking up I wanted to see the looming shape over my tent. Nothing darn it. So I rolled over and went to sleep when the 'tingling' went away.
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| Posted: October 10th, 2007 06:43 AM |
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RKennedy...I sent you a PM...I would love to hear about your experiences. I'll look for your posts
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| Posted: October 10th, 2007 12:20 PM |
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Thanks for the post Blaine!
The "tingle" you describe, was that your legs having a lack of blood circulation? Or do you suspect it was infrasound?
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BCsquatch
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Joined: Jan 2007
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| Posted: October 10th, 2007 03:02 PM |
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No, my legs and arms were not tingling from a lack of circulation but it kind of felt that way. I was in no way restricted in my movement. It was kind of like getting the heebie jeebies, like you know when something is about to happen and you are on edge about it.
I have never put much stock in infrasound. I know that it exists but since I have not knowingly experienced it I cannot say that this is what it was. At the same time I do not cast any doubts as to those who have had it happen in a group or as witnessed by others.
Blaine McMillan
BFRO Investigator
Western Canada
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