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 Posted: October 3rd, 2010 05:27 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

The TN Expedition ended today. It was a great expedition, with 28 investigators and participants attending.

Expedition notes will be published to the TN EXCO board for review by the participants within a day or two, and will be posted here within a week.

On behalf of the TN Team, Thanks to everyone who helped make this expedition a big success.

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The preliminary notes have been delivered to the TN Expedition participants for their review. Once I've received their feedback related to omissions, or any needed changes or corrections I'll be ready to post here. Probably by Thursday - Friday at the latest.

I do understand that everyone is anxious to hear about expedition results once the expedition is over and I'm trying very hard to be timely with ours.

Thanks!

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 Posted: October 5th, 2010 07:45 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Hey Ronie, when you post your report, can you maybe slip in what you made for dinner while you were there? Your chuck wagon cooking is the stuff of legends too! I am SO bummed I had to miss this trip!
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Barb,

Thanks for the kind words. I'll give the meal information here since the notes are going to be rather lengthy.

The TN Team cooked supper for the entire group on Thursday, Friday and Saturday night:

Thursday:
Home made vegetable beef soup
Home made corn bread
Crackers
Assorted sandwiches, including ham, turkey and homemade pimento cheese
Assorted home made desserts including lemon cake, chocolate cake, snickerdoodles, and corn flake cookies
Sweet Tea and a big pot of coffee

Friday:
Grilled burgers with all the trimmings
Black Bean & Corn Salad with Honey Lime dressing
Assorted Chips
Assorted desserts
Sweet Tea and Coffee

Saturday:
Chili
Homemade Corn Bread
Crackers
Fritos, cheese, sour cream, etc.
Home made Sandwiches, including more home made pimento cheese
Home made desserts
Sweet Tea and Coffee

Nothing fancy, but I don't think anyone went hungy.....;-)
 
 
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Tennessee BFRO Expedition
September 30 – October 3, 2010


The 2010 Tennessee Expedition was held in the Cherokee National Forest of east Tennessee from September 30th through October 3rd. We had 28 people in attendance; 10 investigators and 18 participants from 12 different states. We were also blessed with an abundance of equipment including 7 recording thermal units and several night vision monoculars as well as a good variety of high quality sound recording equipment.
7 people arrived on Wednesday, September 29th, including 2 investigators – Tom B and Paul M. Of those 7 people, two of them; Jack S and Mark C, opted to remote camp at a camp we have named “Camp Scream” due to past activity. This camp is at a much higher elevation than base camp – a little over 3 miles further up the mountain. They did have some activity on Wednesday night. At 8:45 they heard 3 owl hoots. Shortly thereafter they walked up the road away from camp and returned to camp at 9:15. At 9:36 they heard what was described as a ‘crazy howl’. It lasted approximately 3 seconds and came from approximately 100 yards away to the east. There was no up note or down note at the beginning or end. The tonal quality was the same throughout. Whatever was howling was up on a ridge looking down on their camp. At 10 pm it started raining and they retired to their tents. Later in that evening there was a ‘finger swipe’ (described as an object pushing into the tent like a finger) along the side of one of the tents. No further activity was reported for that night at Camp Scream, however at Base Camp Tom T. was awakened at 3:00 am on Thursday morning by a very powerful odor that smelled like a combination of rotten eggs and feces. Nothing was heard or seen and the odor soon dissipated.
Thursday, September 30th saw the official start of the expedition. After a community supper, introductory meeting and making a plan for the night we deployed teams to several different locations:
• Camp Swim – This camp is located approximately 3 miles north of base camp and is located on the same creek that runs behind base camp. Tom T, David A, Adam N, Doug F, & Paul M arrived at that camp at 8:35 with one thermal recording unit. At 8:35 they picked up a small heat signature. At 10:38 they did 4 wood knocks. At 11:13 they did several whoops with a megaphone and at 12:10 they did several additional wood knocks. There was no return on any of these. At 12:40 the small heat signature, which turned out to be a rabbit, returned.
• Mountain Camp – 1 investigator and 3 participants decided to camp on the mountain part way between base camp and Camp Scream. They were Don A., Jay C., Jamie W & Todd M. They opted to spend the first night in their camp. At 9 pm they heard a coyote like call that was very distant. At 11 pm they did three wood knocks and got one immediate return and a rock was also thrown. At 12:36 after Don A. & Todd M had gone to bed and Todd had headphones on and was singing, Jay C & Jamie W heard a whoop and growl very, very close to the tent. Later in the night after 4 am there was a series of very odd whistles followed by 6 owl-like calls.
• Camp Scream – By Thursday we had a good sized group actually camping at Camp Scream. They included Jack S., Mark C., Darren P., Monongahela, Russ J., Sam B., & Nathan G. Two more campers joined them on Friday. There were two thermal recording units at this camp as well as a thermal viewing unit and an assortment of very good sound recording equipment. The activity for the night started with the people who were staying at this camp, but later several more of us joined them. At 8:55 pm Monongahela did a wood knock followed by Darren P. doing a whoop. They got a faint flat howl from the west, and corresponding chatter from the east. At 9:25 a group of 5 left camp to walk up the road. This group consisted of Monongahela, Charlie R., Dana F., Nathan G. & Mark C. At 9:42 they announced and did a knock and whoop. 10 seconds later they received a single wood knock in return. Shortly after this several participants and investigators arrived at Camp Scream and at 10 pm Tom B., Ashlan Y., Trenda M., Ronie P., Mark W. and Brad B. announced they would leave camp and walk toward the group that was still up the road away from camp. At 10:10 another wood knock was heard that was not done by either group. At 10:25 this second group heard a wood knock from a ridge to the south at perhaps 100 yards away. Shortly afterward the first team came back down the road and some returned to camp. The 4 females in the remaining group left the men to walk up the road alone so that they could be observed on thermal and hopefully act as bait. After deploying several hundred yards they did hear some stick snaps near them and walked slowly back to the rest of the group hoping to draw something in. No thermal heat signatures were picked up.
At 10:35, while intently watching the ridge the wood knock had come from Charlie R & Mark W both saw an upright shadow run across the ridge from one tree to another. They turned to each other to ask if the other had seen it and both had seen the same thing. It ran from left to right. At 10:42 there was a stick snap from the same direction as the last wood knock and at 10:51 a rock was thrown. Although we did not see the rock, the object came through the air horizontally and ricocheted off of several trees. In discussing to determine that it was indeed a rock we threw a rock back and the ricochet from tree to tree made the exact same sound so we felt confident in our analysis.
Shortly after this the entire group returned to Camp Scream and several members left to go and walk the North Road, a gated forest road that runs north between Mountain Camp and Camp Scream. This group included Tom B., Monongahela, Sam B., Nathan G., Ashlan Y., Jordan R., Charlie R. & Dana F. The had no activity on North Road except for finding the abandoned camp that Mike G. had set up. After they returned everyone who was not camping at Camp Scream left for the night.
The Camp Scream group stayed up until around 12:55 am. At one point Darren P. & Monongahela walked out to the road and did a whoop and a knock. They heard movement walking down the hill through the brush toward them. Russ J. came out from camp to join them and they did another whoop and knock and had a heavy rock thrown at them. Russ J. threw a rock back. Later, after they had been in bed for about 30 minutes they heard a wood knock from the east at about 2 am.
• North Road – At 10 pm Mike G. & Barry B. set up an abandoned camp on the North Road. They built a fire, set up chairs, a tarp, put out some food and set up a thermal recording unit that would run all night. At 10:30 while Barry B was breaking up firewood they had an immediate wood knock or stick snap return from 100 yards away. They left and went back to their vehicle, and announced over the radio that they would be broadcasting a recording of a baby crying. They played this for approximately 3 ½ minutes and then returned to base camp. At 6 am on Friday morning they deployed again with David A., & Ashlan Y. to drive to Camp 5 and then back up to the abandoned camp on the North Road. They saw nothing on their drive and nothing in the camp had been touched.

Friday, October 1st:
• Each day, after our morning debriefings, teams deployed to day hike to look over where activity had happened the night before, and reevaluate sites for our night time activities. On Friday afternoon Jay C., and JamieW.drove to the top of the mountain, several miles beyond Camp Scream, and walked in a gated road to discover a large clover meadow on top of the mountain. To their surprise they found a set of large tracks, some of them sunk in 3 inches or more, and striding in a straight line right through the center of the clover field. Not all of the tracks were distinctive and only those found in the wetter ground were sunk in as deeply, but they did mark the first track found, and the last track leaving the field, which was pointed toward a very well used game trail that headed off the mountain and down into a steep ravine, for potential casting. This team did not make their find until 4:30 pm and was not able to apprise us of this find until right before our group supper on Friday night so we were not able to go in on Friday to do a daytime analysis and cast tracks, but we did plan to send teams to that area Friday night.
• Base Camp – Paul M., Tom T., Bob D., and Doug F. decided to stay in camp and thermal the area. At 11:15 they did several whoops and some Samurai chatter, but received no response. They had no further activity that night.
• Camp Scream – A large number of participants convened at Camp Scream and deployed from there to the North Road. Adam N. & Jordan R. decided to stay at Camp Scream. At 10:30 they had movement behind them across the creek – nothing overly loud, but definite movement. Shortly afterward a team with a thermal unit did drive up on the road and thermaled the area they had been hearing movement from, but nothing definitive was seen. At 10:52 they did 2 wood knocks and received a possible return from very close, but it was very soft and they could not be positive. They had no further activity until later in the evening and we will come back to that camp later in this report.
• North Road – Around 9:30 we had a large number of people deploy to walk the North Road. They included Ashlan Y., David A., Charlie R., Dana F., Jack S., Mark W., Brad B., Russ J., Monongahela, Mark C., Darren P., Brad B., and Sam B. The group split into two parts when they reached the North Road. The first group deployed and walked in several hundred yards, past a clearing and on to a bend in the road. At 9:53 Mark W. did a whoop & knock – no response. This team kept walking and eventually crossed a bridge and started up a ridge. Group 2 had deployed after Group 1 and also was moving along the road. At 10:00 pm Group 2 did one whoop which Group 1 answered. There was no response. At 10:05 Group 1 divided into smaller segments and spaced themselves out. 4 from this group smelled a very strong odor of rotten egg mixed with feces, mixed with skunk coming from up on the mountain above them. As soon as they began talking about what they smelled the odor went away and everyone noted how ‘fast’ it left. They continued up the mountain. At 10:30 Mark did a whoop and a knock. They received an immediately return knock from the west – very clear, and very close. At 10:21 Mark did another whoop and knock and the group heard a very faint and distant howl return from the NNE. Everyone in the group described it as very ‘King Kong like’. At 10:22 Darren P. from Group 2 did a very loud howl (please note that both groups said “he rocked”). Group 1 heard a very faint response howl that Group 2 did not hear. At 10:25 Group 1 heard a 2nd wood knock from below them to the NNE and then heard a 3rd wood knock reply that sounded like it was from the location of the first. At 10:30 Group 1 and 2 met near the top of the mountain. At 10:32 Darren P. did another long and loud howl – no response. They continued up the mountain. At 10:40 Mark W. smelled a faint musky odor and noticed that he got goose bumps on his arms. At 10:45 Mark did a whoop & knock – no response. The teams decided to split again at 10:48. Darren P., Monongahela, Mark W. & Brad B. stayed behind and went dark. At 10:50, and as soon as they could no longer hear Team 1, Brad B. heard three wood knocks; “tap – space – tap, tap” with the second two taps being softer. At 10:51 Monongahela heard movement in the brush directly uphill from them. At 10:53 he was looking uphill toward where the movement had come from when he saw eye shine. It was described as one bright blue/white spot that winked out and then came back, shifting position randomly, and then finally disappearing. At 10:55 Darren P. got a thermal hit 50 feet to the east of where the eye shine was being seen. At 11:00 Mark W. also saw eye shine from the same location as Darren P’s thermal hit. Two orbs – very low to the ground and these orbs moved laterally as if it was watching while moving across the hillside. This eye shine moved out and then back in to cover. From 11:00 to 11:10 Darren P. was watching thermal movement where Mark, Brad and Monongahela were seeing the eye shine. Also at 11:00, right before Mark started talking to the eye shine; this team received three distinct knocks – 1 each from three different locations – southeast, east and north. At 11:05 Mark started talking to where the eye shine was coming from – courteous low tones; “Hello, thanks for coming, etc., etc.” As soon as he began talking they received a wood knock response from uphill (to the SE) above where they were seeing the eye shine. Monongahela was also watching eye shine during this time that was uphill and south of what Darren and Mark were watching. 4 people from this group saw eye shine – Darren P., Brad B., Mark W., and Monongahela. They left gifts in this area – sliced apples, candy, etc. and vocalized that they were leaving them. While walking out they used a system of saying “three, two, one” and on “one” everyone stopped dead to listen and see whether or not they were being paralleled, but nothing was heard. While all of this activity was going on with the ‘dark’ team, Team 1 had done a knock and loud scream at 11:08 but received no reply.
• Mountain Meadow – Right after dinner, Mike G., Nathan G., Jay C., Todd M., Don A., & Jamie W. deployed to where the tracks had been found in the mountain meadow to set up an abandoned camp. After walking in, they realized they had forgotten several items and two participants left and went back to base camp, which was over 8 miles away, to get the missing items. The other 4 remained and sat between the woods and the meadow waiting for the others to return. Coming back again the group realized that they were still missing a necessary cable and opted to leave this location and abandon their plan for another time. They came out the last time at 11:30. As they were getting in their vehicles, Tom B., Ronie P. & Trenda M., who had been driving the roads and thermaling since 10:15, arrived at their location intending to walk in and thermal around the meadow. The first group left and the second group spent several minutes driving further along the mountain top before finding a suitable place to turn around. It was approximately 15 minutes after the first team had left before the second team parked and got out of their vehicle. As they started down the steep road past the gate Trenda M. was in the lead, followed by Ronie P., and then Tom. As was learned by discussion after the fact, both Ronie and Trenda had a very bad feeling about walking down that road. At one point Trenda got 50 yards or so ahead of Ronie and Tom and Ronie asked her to hold up. As Ronie & Tom were catching up to her, Trenda slipped and almost turned an ankle, so Ronie went past her and Tom went past both of them to thermal toward where the meadow started several hundred yards further on. Ronie was immediately focused on the woods on the right side of the road and knew beyond a doubt there was something very close. Trenda was also focused on the same area and announced that she was getting really ‘boogered’. Ronie was very aware that something was very close, and there was an intense feeling it did not want them there. Tom did not realize what was happening to the women and announced that he could see the meadow through his thermal. It was immediately after this that Trenda got very badly zapped. Trying to hold their ground, but still assess the situation Ronie realized that Trenda’s condition was deteriorating, that her breathing was rapid and labored and that they needed to go. Tom was not thermaling in the direction this was coming from and at first was unaware what was happening due to his distance beyond the women. At the point that Ronie announced they needed to leave both Tom and Ronie smelled a dank musky odor. Ronie said “we need to leave now” and she turned and sent Trenda up the road ahead of her and back to the car. By now Trenda’s condition had deteriorated even further, but this is her story to tell if she chooses. Upon reaching the car, Trenda became very concerned for Tom’s safety and Ronie called out to Tom to come now. Upon reaching them Tom realized the seriousness of the situation and they left the area, eventually stopping at Camp Scream. The teams that had been deployed to the Mountain Road returned to Camp Scream not long after this and Ronie advised them that Trenda had been zapped and asked that they be respectful and not ask her about it until the debriefing the next day as she was still very shaken.
• Camp Scream – later Friday evening. After Tom, Trenda and Ronie left; Ashlan Y., David A., Nathan G., Russ J., Charlie R., Dana F., Darren P., Monongahela, and Jack S. deployed at 12:30 to walk up the road from camp. At 12:48 they did a wood knock followed by a whoop and then another wood knock – no reply. At 12:58 they did a whoop & wood knock with no reply. At 1:00 they did another wood knock. At 1:01 they received a possible very soft reply. They answered back with another wood knock but received no reply. At 1:02 they did a very soft whoop – no reply. At 1:02 they also did 3 soft knocks – no reply. At 1:14 they received 2 rock clacks – very fast – from the SW. Shortly after this they split up so that the forward group could be thermaled by the group behind them. The thermal group heard two knocks at 1:24. At 2:00 am a group consisting of Charlie R., Dana F., Jack S & Nathan G. left Camp Scream to go back to the mountain meadow. They thermaled on their way in but saw nothing. They proceeded to where the first foot print was found and examined it. They left shortly after but realized they had not put out the peanut butter they intended to leave so they returned to put it out and as they were walking away again Dana F. thought she heard footsteps behind her and ran to catch up to the men. In thinking it over later she could not be positive and feels she may just have scared herself. As to the peanut butter, the jar was left in a tree with no leaves, about 5’ up. Peanut butter was left on the outside of the jar as an attractant, and the jar was sealed. Upon returning the next day, it had not been touched.

Saturday, October 2nd:
• Almost all of the expeditioners and investigators returned to the mountain meadow during the day time to examine and cast the tracks that were worth casting and to look for other evidence. Additional tracks of various sizes were found and one of them was cast and can be seen in the group photo. We also found a variety of branch breaks and twists, several of which had hair caught in them. There were also large amounts of scat – both in the field, and in the forest surrounding the field. Some of it was easily identifiable as bear, and other samples were unlike anything we had seen before. They were large soft piles, light in color, with no indication of any partially digested materials in them – simply smooth. They also had no odor. These piles of scat were very similar to human baby poop in appearance and color. We had both a doctor and a veterinarian with us, so sterile collections were made of both scat and hair for further analysis. Initial testing of the scat revealed no parasites whatsoever. While we can’t tell you what the scat is from, we can rule out bear, cow, horse, hog, deer, coyote, and anything smaller than a coyote as the volume was large. One interesting find was a good sized oak limb that had been twisted off and was found lying under a maple tree with no oak trees anywhere in the near proximity.
• Mountain Meadow – Three teams deployed to the mountain meadow on Saturday night. The first team consisting of Dana F., Charlie R., Ashlan Y., David A. and Nathan G. went in an hour or so ahead of the second team and third teams. On their way in they jumped something large in the exact same spot that Trenda, Ronie & Tom had had their experience the night before. Luckily Nathan G had a thermal recording unit and was able to immediately lock in on what they had spooked. After the initial noise made when first jumped, there was no further sound whatsoever as it left the area. The footage obtained is being reviewed by the TN team at this time. We do want to go back to the area for further research and to take measurements before anything else is done. After the subjects being thermaled had finally left the area this team proceeded to the top of the meadow and built a fire. The second team consisting of Jay C & Jamie W arrived shortly thereafter with no incident. The third team of Tom B., Ronie P., Trenda M., Paul M., Doug F. and Adam N. arrived about an hour later and proceeded to walk in also without incident. It’s interesting to note that when we started down the road it felt very comfortable and relaxed and the night was alive with the sounds of crickets, peepers, and the typical night noises. That made us realize that when we had walked in the night before there had been dead silence, something we had not noticed at the time (kudos to Trenda M. for going back into that area after her experience of the night before). Tom B., Paul M. & Doug F. stayed in the middle of the meadow to thermal in all directions; while Adam N., Trenda M., and Ronie P. continued on to join the group at the fire. Things remained quiet, and there was no further activity at that location on Saturday night.
• South Road – A team made up of Darren P., Monongahela, Brad B., Mark W., Jack S and Jordan R. deployed to the South mountain road. This team proceeded to the top of the mountain doing various knocks and calls going in and coming out with no noticeable activity noted.
• Mountain Camp – Outside of the activity experienced by the Mountain Meadow team on their way in, Saturday night was essentially quiet everywhere except Mountain Camp. Only Don A. & Todd M. stayed in camp on Saturday evening while everyone else was deployed to other locations. They chose to sit by the fire and listen. At 9:55 from a ridge to their south they heard 2 enormous crashes. They reiterated several times that the noise was immense and sounded like a giant tree knock, ‘as if a 400 lb. log were slammed against a tree’. It was no more than 200 yards from them. At 11:47 they heard a howl from the NW that lasted 2 to 3 seconds. This may have been from one of the teams on the North Road, but we’re unsure whether or not the sound could have traveled that far. At 12:05 Todd did a series of knocks and 15 seconds later they got 1 return knock from the SE approximately 50 to 100 yards away. At 12:55 they heard one more knock from the SW at about the same distance and volume as the one that had come from the SE. At 3 am when Jay C. & Jamie W. were returning to camp they heard what sounded like a ‘very large’ owl calling. This wrapped up the activity for the night and for the expedition.
• In summation – we had a wonderful expedition with great folks, and great activity and on behalf of the TN Team we want to thank everyone who participated.


 
 
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 Posted: October 7th, 2010 11:34 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Base camp: On saturday night Bob D., Barry B. and myself stayed in camp. We were sitting by the fire. At 9:30pm I heard what sounded like a very large rock hit the ground over near Charlie and Dana's tent. Bob and Barry didn't hear the noise. I looked with my night vision and Barry listened with his parabolic mike. I couldn't see anything and all we could hear were crickets. At 1:00am I was by the fire by myself and I heard the sound of a tree branch being broken. I looked again and couldn't see anything. I looked for a rock the next morning but wasn't able to determine anything unusual.
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 Posted: October 7th, 2010 12:32 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Wow Ronie, as usual, great job on the report. Thanks for all your hard work. Hopefully Trenda is having no residual effects from her zapping. She sounds like a real trooper. Oh, and thanks for adding the post with the menu! LOL
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Thanks for your comments Barb. This was Trenda's 3rd expedition, and yes, she's a trooper. I was very proud of her for going back in to that area the next day, and especially the next night. Friday night was intense. It was totally different on Saturday night.

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 Posted: October 7th, 2010 09:06 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Ronie,

I have a couple of day light photos that illustrate the area where Darren, Mark, Brad and I encountered the eye shine described in the report above.

This first photo shows where I first heard movement from on the hill above us, and my view above Darren's head to the brushy area where I first spotted eyeshine (circled in red):
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...feat=directlink

This second photo is taken from the same spot, but looking to the east where Darren's thermal got a hit, and where Brad, Mark and I watched the second episode of eyeshine (described as two orbs above). The region is circled in red, and upon daylight investigation it reveals not an open hillside, but a shallow ravine that provided cover to the visiter as it crept down the hill to check us out. Note Ford F250 for scale:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...feat=directlink

All in all it was a great time, and for my first BFRO expedition I had a real blast. I learned a lot of good technique that I can hardly wait to put to use in my own research area. I should have some audio clips to share, which demonstrate many of the knock returns that we got to our whoops and knocks. More later.
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 Posted: October 8th, 2010 10:38 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks for posting those photos Monongahela! Much appreciated and they add a lot to the report. Seeing things in the daytime is important.

I encourage any of the other expeditioners and investigators to also post their photos.

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 Posted: October 8th, 2010 01:22 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Y'all, thanks for taking the time to post these. Mon, cool pics that really help us understand the terrain. TP that was very well written. Sounds like it was a pretty successful expedition, congrats to you all.
 
 
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Thanks RicknMs. Appreciate your comments. I'm hopeful others who took photos will post theirs as well. It always helps to 'see' what someone is talking about.

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POST SCRIPT - And my apologies to both men. We had two wonderful educational presentations during the TN expedition.

On Friday night, after supper, Mike G. did a wonderful presentation on thermal recording, and his thoughts on why game cams do not have any success. He was also gracious enough to show his "Squeaky" footage to the entire group.

On Saturday night, Monongahela did a great presentation on sound recording, showing the sound 'pictures' in hertz of vocalizations and wood knocks made by Sasquatches. He played about a dozen different sounds from around the country and discussed the sound profiles of each.

Both presentations were extremely educational and very well done, and all of the participants learned a great deal.

Thank you to both men!
 
 
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 Posted: October 9th, 2010 09:51 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks Ronie. And it really was my pleasure to be able to share some of the interesting things I've found while studying this type of audio. Hopefully I lit an interest in a few more folks and we'll have more recorders out there in the field.

I've been working my way through nearly 120 hours of audio that I recorded over the course of this expedition. And while it was an exceptionally quiet weekend in terms of vocalizations (the few we heard were distant and faint) I did record a remarkable number of wood knocks.

The very best was also the first. mentioned in the Thursday night camp scream report above after "At 9:25 a group of 5 left camp to walk up the road". A spectrogram of our whoop-knock and the loud return knock can be seen here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...feat=directlink

Note the two softer knocks immediately after the loud return knock. Those weren't audible to our ears at the time, but the recorder picked them up nicely (again proving the value of an audio recorder in the field).

And you can hear an amplified version of that recording at this link:
https://sites.google.com/site/monga...redirects=0&d=1

On Friday evening, Jordan and I drove up the mountain from camp scream and put my parabolic out on the mountainside. Before leaving we did three whoop-knocks. The first two got no response, but the third, a double whoop and knock, got an immediate, and deep response whoop. The recording is pretty esoteric and not worth sharing, but the spectrogram is pretty telling. I've highlighted the return whoop in this image:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...feat=directlink

Finally, between 3 and 6 a.m. on the last morning, my in camp recorder captured a distant knock and whoop. This one is a little more audible than the one above, so you might be able to hear it in this recording:
https://sites.google.com/site/monga...redirects=0&d=1

And if you can't hear it, you might be able to see it in this image of the spectrogram:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...feat=directlink

I'm going to attempt to edit the eyeshine incident down into a manageable audio snippet. If I can do it justice, I'll share a link to that as well. Listening to the event as it occurred is pretty interesting.
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 Posted: October 10th, 2010 08:41 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks Monongahela! Great information, and we'll look forward to the audio on the eyeshine event. I particularly like the tonal quality of the knock you got between 3 am and 6 am, and the whoop was very clear.

If we learned anything on this trip it is to always keep your audio recorders running and your thermal at the ready.

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 Posted: October 11th, 2010 12:42 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks for the reports...sounded quite exciting!
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 Posted: October 11th, 2010 12:54 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Group Photo
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 Posted: October 11th, 2010 06:48 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Nathan,

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Thanks for editing the photo and,again, welcome to the board.


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 Posted: October 13th, 2010 11:02 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

In the report above, the eye shine encounter on Friday night began with subtle wood knocks, progressed to eye shine observations synchronized with thermal observations, and ended when we left gifts on the road side and departed. This all occurred over a duration of about one hour. I've edited the audio from that event down to just the highlights, the result being a recording just over 11 minutes long.

In it you will hear multiple soft wood knocks, and occasional queries of "did you hear that" or statements such as "another one". Eventually you'll hear me describe the first eye shine observation, in the brush uphill from our position. Then you'll hear Darren and I discussing and watching the bright heat signature on his thermal imager. After this, you'll here Mark's enthusiasm as he see the eye shine, in the same location that Darren is recording a thermal hit from. Brad soon sees it, I see it, and eventually Mark begins to speak out loud to it. At the end we leave gifts of food and depart.

It's just over 10MB in size and can be down loaded here:
https://sites.google.com/site/monga...16-EyeShine.mp3
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 Posted: October 14th, 2010 01:03 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Very cool Monongahela. Thanks for sharing. I felt like I was there.
 
 
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 Posted: October 14th, 2010 01:30 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thank you for sharing everybody. This was an awesome read and sounds like a great trip!
 
 
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 Posted: October 15th, 2010 01:25 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thank you for sharing, this report was very interesting..loved it..
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