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 Posted: July 2nd, 2011 01:09 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

IOWA Hill Country BFRO 2011 Expedition
Report by BFRO investigator and expedition organizer Steve Moon.

The first IOWA Hill Country BFRO expedition was conducted in northeast Iowa from June 22nd to 26th of 2011. There were six BFRO novice investigators, five BFRO investigators and three BFRO volunteers in attendance. The ratio of new folks to seasoned investigators was an optimal one-to-one. Informative presentations were given and a variety of locations visited during the day. Night ops were conducted at approximately 10:00 p.m., 12:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. each night. Three locations were targeted during the expedition. These were locations one, two and three. Most ops took place at location one, which is where base camp was.

We had occasional rain early on, but by Friday the sky was clear. There was little or no wind on Friday night and no wind on Saturday night. The temperature was in the low eighties during the day and the upper fifties at night. There were no mosquitoes the entire time, just gnats. There was less than a quarter moon, and nights where very dark.

Two hand-held thermal video recorders with overnight capability were present. Both units were deployed for night ops and overnight monitoring of base camp. Audio recording equipment was present with every team for each night op. Overnight audio recordings were made. Still camera equipment included two film cameras and an endless array of digital cameras. Nine Reconyx HC600 HyperFire game cameras were deployed. Iowa investigator Adam N. documented the expedition with digital stills. Sasquatch manipulations of the environment were documented, including stick structures, a print in a trail and a thrown tree.

Thermal video of probable bigfoot activity was captured.

UPDATE 7.6.2011: As is often the case with thermal images the ones captured on Saturday night are less than compelling. Even with enhancement not much can be seen. When you're standing there it seems like a blip is obvious. Trying to find it later in the frames is another story. The use of a tri-pod or mono-pod with legs helps because then you can flip through the images and see movement in the scene.

UPDATE 7.7.2011: Here is a sound file of the tree being snapped off and thrown on Saturday night.

http://soundcloud.com/moonboyphotob...ee-fall/s-WaGUX

UPDATE 7.8.2011: Here are two very unlikely sounding wood knocks that were heard on a trail Saturday night within a half hour of hearing the tree getting tossed. We did not move from this position for a long time, and stayed in radio contact with a second team, who were about a mile away. The foliage was very dense. In spite of this sounding like the other team knocking, we have determined that these knocks came from close by.

http://soundcloud.com/moonboyphotob...-knocks/s-Yh0tY

UPDATE 7.9.2011: On Saturday night at location three BFRO investigator Val A. photographed red eyeglow at close range in a parking area. BFRO volunteer Tom K. was standing with her when she took the photo. Val and I have worked collaboratively for two years trying to document eyeglow and have finally succeeded. Val photographed the eyeglow with Kodak 100 speed Ektar color negative film. The exposure was f-4 at a sixtieth of a second.

"I enlarged the photo file hugely, and this is what I believe is there. The left lower edge of the eyeball is obscured by the right front hood of my SUV. You can see the outline of the hood of the car rather clearly, and see where one darkness leaves off and the other begins. This is clear in the enlargement. Also, I did inspect the car for fingerprints, and found none. I thought at the time that the squatch was in the brush next to the car, not actually next to the car. He appeared to be coming down a trail that leads into the parking lot when we appeared, and he ducked down behind the nearest obstacle that could keep us from seeing him." ~Valerie

Here is a light version of the image, showing as much detail as possible in the strange light that surrounds the eye, as well as in the eye itself.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...damseyeglow.jpg

Here is a darker version of the image, showing more of the color of the eye.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...seyeglowdrk.jpg

UPDATE 7.16.2011: Photos of the expedition by BFRO investigator Adam N. have been added throughout this report. That will be it for updates for now. Thanks!

UPDATE 7.24.2011: OK, so I added a couple more of Adam N.'s photos of daytime activity. Nice work, Adam!

Wednesday:

Wednesday afternoon was rainy, with occasional downpours interspersed with sunshine. Bruce B. arrived a day early and we conducted a night op. We had dinner with BFRO volunteers Jerry and Kevin O. who live nearby. Jerry and Kevin have been successful bigfoot investigators for several years. After dinner Bruce and I drove to a location not planned for the expedition and walked into a canyon where we hung out in a shelter for about two hours. There was a light mist and it was a very dark night. In spite of dripping and wind we heard two or three fairly loud distinct stick breaks on the hill behind us, and two possible faint wood knocks. The shelter is built into the base of a canyon wall just below a known bigfoot activity area. There were no animal sounds except for a few seconds of tree frog chirps late in the evening, but this may have been weather related. After about an hour I observed a faint, single red eyeglow, twice at ground level, approaching us along the edge of the stream that cuts through the valley. It came to within about two hundred feet of our position. The stream channel at this point is deeply incised with a trout stream running through it. Bruce got a good introduction to night ops. Back at base camp, a tent fly was set up for overnight audio recording.

Base camp.

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Thursday:

On Thursday morning Bruce and I scouted near a lake at location one to find a suitable kayak launch site for night ops on Saturday night. Several stick structures were examined and marked with a GPS. Back at base camp, intermittent light showers greeted new arrivals throughout the rest of the morning into early afternoon. Wisconsin investigator Rick N. deployed game cameras throughout location one. Five cameras were set up on Thursday afternoon in a good variety of locations. For the remainder of the expedition we ran people strategically near these during night ops, as many times as possible. In spite of having a total of nine cameras deployed no bigfoots were photographed. A huge number of deer were photographed. The deer population in the area is extremely dense. Volunteers Jerry and Kevin O. joined us for presentations and were ever-present during the expedition. Jerry and Kevin visit parking areas and trail heads all over the area, observing bigfoot behavior. They are out a lot. During this expedition they concentrated their observation on expedition locations.

Thursday night ops began at 10:00 p.m. with two teams at location one. One team split up, with investigator Adam N. and I dark-walking a long road into a deep valley with Karen and Dean H. while Wisconsin investigator Eric A. and Bruce B. crossed a bridge over a river and positioned themselves on the road at the bottom of the hill with a thermal video recorder, to monitor our approach. As we approached them I radioed Eric and told him that we would walk past them without stopping or acknowledging them and would continue to the bridge. Eric and Bruce had done a 180 by mistake, and after we passed them Eric radioed to inform us that four strangers were walking toward us. It was hilarious. Eric and Bruce report that soon after arriving at their post they were approached by a large slow moving animal that came from near the bridge, circling them on one side and eventually ending up at an estimated range of about ten to fifteen feet. Occasional stick snaps were heard. No thermal signature of the stalker was detected due to dense foliage.

Team two, composed of investigator Rick N., Michigan volunteer Tom K., Tony C. and Denny P. headed to location two. Rick waited at the south end of a steep stream valley with a thermal video recorder as the other three walked from the north end. Tom, Tony and Denny got lost and ended up going in a circle, finally crossing a trout stream. As they crossed the stream they heard what they thought was a rock hitting the water. In the next few minutes the sound was heard several more times, for a total of seven times. They made a hasty retreat, but not before Tom marked the spot with a GPS.

Investigator Adam N., Denny P. and Dominick Z. staged at base camp at midnight to observe any bigfoots that may have been drawn down the hill by group one. In the first hour around the campfire they each heard what sounded like something large walking back and forth just inside the woods not more than a hundred feet away. Occasional stick snaps were heard. A print was found on a trail the next morning. More on that below.

At 12:30 a.m. an op was conducted at a lake and at the edge of a deep valley at location one. Investigator Rick N. and Bruce B. staged at the dam. Tony C., Bruce B. and investigator Eric A. joined me on a trail above the lake. Knocks and howls were exchanged several times. Rick and Bruce heard a very clear wood knock which was in response to one that I made. Toward the end of the op I saw some blue eyeglow flashing briefly at the edge of dense tree cover at an estimated distance of about 150 to 200 feet. It was seen twice, approaching our position.

Back at base camp investigator Rick N. set a thermal video recorder up for overnight from his tent viewing toward investigator Adam N.'s campsite. Investigator Eric A. set up a thermal video recorder for overnight from his truck camper top looking at several expedition campsites along the edge of the valley, toward base camp.

Friday:

After breakfast Adam and I investigated the area behind base camp where the stalking incident occurred, and observed a well worn padded trail. Following the trail to the top of a small ridge Adam exactly replicated the stick snapping from the night before. Half way up the hill I discovered a large deeply impressed foot print. The print was an inch deep and about 15 inches long but was probably longer. The heal portion of the foot had rested on about a one and a half inch diameter stick, pressing it into the ground. At the toes it was about seven inches wide. The ground was very firm. I tried to make an impression with my foot and couldn't. I cast the print later that morning in a print casting demonstration.

Beginning at 11:00 a.m. I gave presentations on print casting and audio recording. The expedition group then toured locations two and three. There was a great deal of excitement generated by the rock throwing event the night before at location two, so expedition members hiked to the spot hoping to find foot prints or some other sign that a bigfoot had been harassing investigator Tom K., Tony C. and Denny P. When we arrived we found a large beaver pond. The teamís rock-throwing-bigfoot theory was officially debunked when no rocks were found on the floor of the pond. This experience was a great example for the novice investigators, of our research methods.

No rocks in this beaver pond. Hm...

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Print casting demonstration trail where stalker was heard the night before.

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Hiking a valley during day scouting.

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Hanging out at the infamous shelter at location two.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...0th/shelter.jpg

Late in the afternoon I positioned a kayak on a lake for a Saturday night op while Rick N. and Adam N. deployed four more game cameras at location one. The weather cleared, with partly cloudy skies, temps in the low 80s, and moderate wind. The night was calm with light wind.

Tom K. set up a computer and speakers in the local cafe and gave a very compelling presentation on infrasound. He and I both recounted experiences that we have had of being 'zapped'. We are convinced that the experiences we have had are bigfoot related, and we discussed the implications that this phenomenon has for field research.

Setting up equipment before heading out for dayime scouting.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...0th/nightop.jpg

Friday night ops began with three teams deployed. Investigator Rick N., Denny P. and Bruce B. headed out on a trail at location one. They made soft double wood nocks every four to five minutes, whooped and howled. At 11:40 p.m. Denny P. heard a possible faint wood knock near their turn-around point. On the way back they whooped.

Dominick Z., Tom. K. and I headed for location two just after dark, at around 10:00 p.m. We proceeded on a trail through a deep valley. After hiking along a trout stream we made a few loud knocks. We heard a definite faint wood knock in reply from further up-valley. We continued walking past a tiny little pond full of very loud frogs. Tom K. commented that he was glad we weren't camped next to them, they were so loud. We dead-ended at a stream and turned around. When we approached the pond this time the entire valley went eerily quiet and stayed that way for at least five minutes. All that could be heard were two distant owls. The frogs slowly came back and the 'dead zone' ended. The valley was once again really loud. We proceeded back to the parking area and continued observing. Dominic Z. heard a faint wood knock about 45 seconds after I made a loud double knock.

Illinois investigator Val A., and Dean and Karen H. headed over to location three before dark. The team observed from a shelter perched at the edge of a canyon. Overall the location was inactive, but some faint eyeglow was observed by Val A. Sparklers were employed by Val at this location Friday or Saturday or both nights. We have had great success using sparklers to get bigfoot's attention at this location.

The late op on Friday night involved three teams coordinating knocking and howling via radio. I was on an upper trail with investigator Eric A. and Bruce B. Investigator Rick N., Dominick Z., Denny P. and Tony C. were near a lake on a lower trail. Investigators Adam N. and Tom K. went through two cornfields of waist high wet corn to get into a position that triangulated with the other two teams. We knocked and whooped. We then whooped with a knock 'imbedded' in the end of the whoop. Late into the op I knocked once and confirmed it with Rick N. who stated that he had indeed heard my 'two knocks'. The second knock was an apparent response.

At 1:30 a.m. Rick N., Adam N., Eric A., Tom K. and I walked down a road to an iron bridge. The clear calm night was spectacular. No paralleling was observed.

Saturday:

After breakfast I summarized the activity of the expedition to that point and gave a presentation on using a film camera in the field. Val A. gave a presentation on eyeglow and eye shine, and our theoretical understanding of the 'eyeglow' phenomenon. Rick N. and Eric A. gave a presentation on thermal video recording equipment and technique, and the challenges of working with thermal imaging.

Demonstration on thermal imaging.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...resentation.jpg

From base camp we proceeded to a location at the edge of a large valley that was found two weeks earlier on a scouting trip. I'm calling it a stick structure 'gallery' because of the large area occupied by dozens of complex and woven stick-tipi combination structures as well as dozens of classically proportioned arches. Three small equilateral triangle tipi structures have been documented in different areas of location one, and there is one in the gallery. The gallery parallels a large well used horse trail for about a hundred and fifty feet or so, just thirty or forty feet into dense trees and undergrowth. When the area was discovered much of the undergrowth in the gallery had that day been beaten flat by something large. My interpretation is that the gallery was an observation post for bigfoots watching people ride by on horses that day. When the expedition group entered into the woods and into the gallery area Adam N. heard a very distinct wood knock from close range just down a ravine. I gave a presentation on my understanding of what stick structures might represent, but it was more of a pep-talk than anything. I'm way into stick structures! Before leaving the gallery Rick N. did a demonstration on game cameras, using one that he had deployed in the gallery area, and discussed the challenges involved.

Discussion about stick structures in the stick structure gallery.

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Three teams deployed for Saturday night ops. At 8:00 p.m. investigator Val A., investigator Tom K., Bruce B. and Dean and Karen H. headed over to location three hoping that the previous night's activities 'primed the pump'. They were joined by volunteers Jerry and Kevin O. There was eyeglow observed by Val A. and Karen H., Karen observing it for the first time. At this location Val has a tradition of talking directly with the bigfoots. 'Come on, I know you can hear me! Let me see you!' It's a riot to listen to, and she's been very successful.

On Saturday night at location three BFRO investigator Val A. photographed red eyeglow at close range in a parking area. BFRO volunteer Tom K. was standing with her when she took the photo. Val and I have worked collaboratively for two years trying to document eyeglow and have finally succeeded. Val photographed the eyeglow with Kodak 100 speed Ektar color negative film. The exposure was f-4 at a sixtieth of a second.

"I enlarged the photo file hugely, and this is what I believe is there. The left lower edge of the eyeball is obscured by the right front hood of my SUV. You can see the outline of the hood of the car rather clearly, and see where one darkness leaves off and the other begins. This is clear in the enlargement. Also, I did inspect the car for fingerprints, and found none. I thought at the time that the squatch was in the brush next to the car, not actually next to the car. He appeared to be coming down a trail that leads into the parking lot when we appeared, and he ducked down behind the nearest obstacle that could keep us from seeing him." ~Valerie

Here is a light version of the image, showing as much detail as possible in the strange light that surrounds the eye, as well as in the eye itself.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...damseyeglow.jpg

Here is a darker version of the image, showing more of the color of the eye.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/...seyeglowdrk.jpg

At 9:00 p.m. investigators Rick N., Adam N., Eric A. and I and Denny P., Dominick Z. and Tony C. stood at a trail head for two trails. The team broke up and Rick, Adam and Dominick Z. started out first, with my team consisting of Eric A. and Denny P. and I following on the same trail. I have been on the other trail a few times, and took my team down that one by mistake. Both teams proceeded to walk out on the trails staying in radio contact and announcing occasional wood knocks. After ten or fifteen minutes Rick N. radioed to ask me if we are following them. Realizing my mistake I turned our group around, having walked about a quarter mile or so. As we were walking back a tree came crashing loudly to the ground about one hundred yards directly to our right, on the other side of a stream in a small valley. We froze and scanned the valley with the thermal video recorder. The tree crashing was loud and seemed to go on for about three seconds or so. I recorded audio of the op and marked locations with a GPS. Over the next hour multiple thermal signatures were observed approaching our position, getting to within a hundred feet of us. The foliage is very thick and so very little of the presumed bigfoots could be seen at any one time. No discernable shapes were recognized in these signatures. Small rodents were observed. For about a half hour or so small objects landed all around our position at one to five minute intervals. 45 minutes after the tree came down we heard two very loud wood knocks coming from up-valley. We had intermittent radio contact with the other team, who were a good distance away in a separate deep valley. Eric and Dennis and I both immediately felt that the knocks were within a thousand feet of us. The knocks sounded very much like Rick's knocks, as though they mimicked his knocks from the day before. We have observed this same knock-mimicking behavior in Michigan. Rick, Adam, Dominick and Tony joined our group and all talked and played harmonica for a while before walking back to the parking area.

From left to right, about to start a night op at location one on Saturday night, Tony C., Eric A., Denny P., Dominick Z., Rick N. and Adam N.

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Recording of the tree being snapped off and thrown.

http://soundcloud.com/moonboyphotob...ee-fall/s-WaGUX

Recording of wood knocks. Here are two very unlikely sounding wood knocks that were heard on a trail Saturday night within a half hour of hearing the tree getting tossed. We did not move from this position for a long time, and stayed in radio contact with a second team, who were about a mile away. The foliage was very dense. In spite of this sounding like the other team knocking, we have determined that these knocks came from close by.

http://soundcloud.com/moonboyphotob...-knocks/s-Yh0tY

At base camp we sat around the campfire comparing notes and asking questions about the op that had just ended. We then walked down to a bridge and back.

Sunday:

After breakfast on Sunday morning investigators Val A., Adam N. and Rick N. and I returned to the place where we heard the tree crash and proceeded to find the tree. It is a small maple that stood dead at a height of fifteen to twenty feet. The trunk is three inches in diameter. The tree was broken off cleanly at ground level. The stump could not be found in spite of the concerted effort of three investigators. The top branches were broken up as though the tree landed on its top. Even though there was a fair amount of wind on Sunday morning we all noted that there were no objects hitting the ground the whole time we were there. We concluded that the objects that had landed around us the night before were most likely thrown by bigfoots. While we were investigating the tree Rick N. hiked back to the position where his group had been the night before so that we could listen to a variety of knocks from there. They were faint and we concluded that the knocks that we had heard the night before were from a bigfoot. We departed and the expedition came to an official end.

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Val A. examining the tree that was thrown on Saturday night.

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The top of the thrown tree.

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The base of the thrown tree where it was broken off at ground level.

On my way home I stopped in to talk with Jerry and Kevin O. at their farm. They had been at the parking area of location two until sunrise on Sunday morning. At 2:50 a.m. Jerry used a parabolic reflector microphone to record two scream-howls in quick succession. The scream-howls are each quite different from the other, last about two to three seconds, and are quite clear above the sound of a stream. We interpreted these to be bigfoot howls. Earlier in the evening at location three they stayed after everyone had returned to base camp, and recorded some whoops coming toward their position through a deep canyon.

http://soundcloud.com/moonboyphotob...6-26-11/s-5xpib

Two scream-howls recorded at location two on Sunday morning at 2:50 a.m. by Jerry O.

I returned to location one on Thursday, July 30th to look for the stump where the tree was snapped off and thrown. I looked for an hour and couldn't find it. I will return to the location again this Fall after the vegetation has died off and do an extensive search. That is one piece of the puzzle that we would really like to have!

(Edited by Indie Farmer)
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 Posted: July 2nd, 2011 03:19 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

I had a FANTASTIC time!
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 Posted: July 5th, 2011 12:28 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks for posting this info. Sounds like a cool trip!
 
 
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 Posted: July 5th, 2011 01:38 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Good write-up!

Blue eyeglow? Is this the first instance? Or has blue been spotted before?

 
 
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Is anyone having difficulty with the scream-howl link or is it me?

Also, in the stick structure 'gallery' as you put it. How big of an area was it? Were the structures in any sort of line or pattern? (Did you map them?)

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Hi Cotter,

I ran out of time to map these structures but will do so, probably once there is snow on the ground this Winter. The area was maybe a hundred and fifty feet long and fifty feet wide. I'll update this thread with results from the survey once it's completed.

The sound link is from Sound Cloud so it should work.

Blue eyeglow has been spotted before. The prominant colors of eyeglow seem to be red, white, blue and yellow.


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 Posted: July 6th, 2011 12:40 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Cotter,

I had to run the add-on that pops up at the top of my browser to get it. Spooky!
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 Posted: July 6th, 2011 01:50 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Quote:
Indie Farmer wrote:
Hi Cotter,

I ran out of time to map these structures but will do so, probably once there is snow on the ground this Winter. The area was maybe a hundred and fifty feet long and fifty feet wide. I'll update this thread with results from the survey once it's completed.

The sound link is from Sound Cloud so it should work.

Blue eyeglow has been spotted before. The prominant colors of eyeglow seem to be red, white, blue and yellow.




Thx Indie. I ask about the mapping b/c I've been investigating in an area where I've found some pretty unique mounds in an area. They were positioned in NW/SE direction up a decent draw. Makes me think they are some sort of migratory marker or directional beacons if you will. Not sure if this is something that is theororized about or not. However, these structures are unlike the typical BF stick structures I've been seeing on the net.

Thx again.

 
 
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 Posted: July 6th, 2011 02:19 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Hi Cotter,

It's easy to assign meaning to features in the landscape that seem out of place, and when in an area where there are bigfoots, we often want to link the two. When I look at stick structures I rule out from consideration anything that could by any stretch of the imagination have been formed naturally. If I can't explain them any other way, then I consider the possibility that a bigfoot was involved. As to meaning, many of us have discussed directionality, etc, here in this forum. You'll find lot's of related discussion in the archives.

I think that mapping structures of any kind is a good way to begin to understand them. I'm always looking for patterns when I find structures. A typical location seems to be along the edges of ridges. In one location I found clusters of arches every 50 to 100 yards along the edge of a sharp ridge. I don't know what that placement indicates. The draw you describe could very well be another location where structures might be built purposefully. Directionality is a reasonable meaning to consider for these if in fact they are built and not naturally occurring.

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 Posted: July 7th, 2011 10:27 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

This just in from Dean and Karen H. Thanks for letting me post this, Dean! Keep up the good work! ~ Steve

Hi Steve---

Ain't life full of irony? Karen and I travel to Northeast Iowa to see Sasquatch structures only to come home and find two on our own property!

Here are the details. For a number of years I have neglectfully maintained a trail leading off through the woods from our garden. Every year or two I kept the path free and clear by mowing and picking up big sticks, etc. I've used the path to get me quickly into the woods for firewood.

The day after our expedition ended, being filled with "Squatch mania", on a lark, I decided to check out the old trail. Lo and behold, about 40 to50 feet in, I encountered the classic arched tripod about 7 feet tall consisting of two living trees and one dead one, and most curious to me, a stick wedged in the top at an odd angle. That is to say its position looks out of place and unnatural. Further on about 30 feet from the first structure is another tripod with a large sapling laying across the trail, and no sign of breaking off in that spot, so it looked placed there. Well, it could all be easily explained, but still....

Also, a neighbor lady, with no prompting from me, complained of some animal making a scream or howl behind her trailer. She has a Husky dog which occasionally howls and almost immediately she says the unknown animal commences his vocals. She is pretty naive about wildlife and thought it might be a deer. "Was this their mating season?", she wondered. But, I found it rather telling that in the next sentences, perhaps to explain her deer theory, she said it sounded like a "large animal".

Our house is surrounded by timber amounting to several hundred acres chock full of deer and turkey. We also have a creek. And I can hear you now, should you drive up our 800 foot lane, "This looks very Squatchy!"

Dean

P.S. I remember you saying Bigfoot was more common than people realize, but this is really too much!


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 Posted: July 8th, 2011 10:20 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

INteresting. Thanks for posting.
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 Posted: July 10th, 2011 12:09 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

For those of you following this particular squatch-related topic, there is a new photo of a squatch right eye located in the Iowa Expedition notes for Saturday night. This photo was taken in darkness without flash or other external light source, including headlamps. At that moment, he was ducking down beside my vehicle, I was too slow to get both his eyes in this piicture.

The color shown does not reflect the color of its eyes as I saw them. The eyes are a deep red.

We continue to work on improving our technical capability in order to better document this intriguing aspect of sasquatch anatomy. This is a work in progress, and I can't wait to get out there and try again!
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NurseVal: WOWZERS! Your eyeglow photo is simply phenomenal. Thank you a million times over. I've never seen eyeglow before and now I finally understand what folks have been trying to describe.
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 Posted: July 11th, 2011 04:10 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

weird the eyeshine photo...but very interesting....great report guys and work as well!
 
 
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 02:04 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Hi Val: The eyeshine photo - a few questions if you will.

#1) After the photo was snapped. What happened? Where did the BF go?

#2) Was the BF's eyeglow actually casting a beam or flood of light? Was it illuminating anything around it?

#3) With no flash used on the camera, and in darkness, why are there leaves lit up in the top part of the photo? Looks as though there is indeed a light source of some sort.

Thank you, there are just a couple things in my mind that aren't clear.

 
 
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 02:56 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Cotter, did you read this part about the photo? Wild stuff....
This is from Indie Farmer's report:
Here is a light version of the image, showing as much detail as possible in the strange light that surrounds the eye, as well as in the eye itself.

 
 
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 03:12 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

RicknMS, have you seen eyeglow? Just currious. It is wild stuff. No question about it.

Cotter, there are no leaves illuminated at the top of the frame. I don't know what those marks are, but they continue off the frame. They are an artifact of the film process.
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 04:02 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Well, what I saw had large eyes as black as coal. It was in the moonlight in the early morning darkness. I often wondered if they glow black?? It never took it's eyes off of me and I moved on off!
 
 
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RicknMS, have you seen eyeglow? Just currious. It is wild stuff. No question about it.

Cotter, there are no leaves illuminated at the top of the frame. I don't know what those marks are, but they continue off the frame. They are an artifact of the film process.


Thanks Indie. I thought it weird, hence the question. Here's another question. Does the eyeglow reflect? Another peculiarity I find about the photo is there doesn't seem to be any reflection off the hood of the SUV.

Also, do you recall if there was any fog or moisture in the air? (Perhaps the reason there is an aura around the eyeball).

The whole eyeglow portion of BF is really hard to comprehend (for obvious reasons). I find this the most 'mystical' part of the creature. It gently delves into the more magical history of BF. Tag on infrasound and you've got yourself a beast that could easily have been thought to have 'otherworld' type powers.

Sorry for all the questions.

 
 
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 06:42 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

No Cotter, these are really great questions!

First off, the air was clear and fairly dry that night. Not much moisture in the air at all. As for reflection It's a Chevy Tahoe type SUV, probably maybe ten years old. So it has rounded fenders and I don't know what the angles were at the time. I can only guess that you might indeed expect a reflection of some sort, but really don't know in this situation.

The most mystical part of the bigfoot is the eyeglow, or eye shine. I whole heartedly agree with you! And you can ask questions and ponder it till you're blue in the face, but until you get out there and see it, it just isn't going to register the way it should.

The only way I can suggest that you gain that experience is through a BFRO expedition. That's how I got started, and you really want to do it with a highly organized group of serious researchers who can guide you. But once you start to see it, that may be one of the main things that you look for. It is for me. That and stick structures.
If your mind is empty, it's always ready for anything and is open to everything. In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's mind there are few.†

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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 07:06 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Hi Cotter, let me try to answer your questions. But first know that I did not see the outline of the form of this bigfoot while the picture was taken. Have I seen full figure BF with blazing eyes in this location before? Yes, twice. But this time it was too dark, I only knew he was there because of his eyes.

I saw two big red eyes at first, as we stood at the edge of the clearing, and he looked at us. The eyes then dropped down and simultaneously moved to our right, using my vehicle as a barrier. He kept his face to us the whole time, which is why I could get the picture. I think the picture shows a slight turn of his head to his left, and his eye pupil seems to be looking a bit off to his left, also. After that, no lights. He could have turned around and gone back up the hill or whatever, we can't know because we coludn't see anything.

I don't recall any light being cast on the ground or my car. I have seen this phenomenon before and saw light "cast" around the creature's head. Now that was wild! But not this time.

I think indie farmer answered your question about the light at the top of the photo, which I also noticed. No, it was deep dusk, not quite totally dark.

There was no fog in that area at that time, as far as we could tell. I think there would have been enough light to see fog had it been there, espcially if it were low on the ground in front of the creature's eyes. Good Question!

Re reflection: I don't think we know enough yet about reflection of this light off objects. Another good question!

Thanks for your questions, you need not aologize at all. This phenomenon is very exciting, and we are just at the beginning of our endeavors to explain it. Your questions are always helpful to us.
"Who is this that lights the wigwam?
With his great eyes lights the wigwam?"
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 Posted: July 12th, 2011 07:19 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

The SUV was also painted dark blue or black.
They are all around us!
 
 
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 Posted: July 13th, 2011 01:50 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Thanks Indie and Val for answering the questions. Truly amazing stuff. And Indie - you are right, I NEED to get on an expedition. Period.
 
 
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There was no fog in that area at that time, as far as we could tell. I think there would have been enough light to see fog had it been there, espcially if it were low on the ground in front of the creature's eyes. Good Question!

Re reflection: I don't think we know enough yet about reflection of this light off objects. Another good question!


hi NurseVal,

just a couple of quick questions: was it cool enough to see your breath as it condensed in the air? was there a light source behind the eyeshine that could have reflected the light off the condensing breath and back into the creature's eyes? or was a light source closer to being behind you -- i believe you said that it was deep dusk at that time...?

i also wonder if sweat evaporating in the air can cause a reflective cloud around a subject's head area. in any case, that photo is very intriguing!

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Lord Clod,

The low that night was 59 degrees, and it was above 60 at the time the photo was taken. We weren't seeing our breath.

I'll let Val know you have a question and she can answer the rest for you.


If your mind is empty, it's always ready for anything and is open to everything. In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's mind there are few.†

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 Posted: September 2nd, 2011 01:36 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

thank you, indie -- just brainstorming about what could have been...

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hi lordclod--indie farmer answered your question about the temp/humidity that night. So---no light source was visible behind the creature, or behind us. He was actually coming down a trail from an uphill position when we apparently surprised him, causing him to duck down behind my vehicle. This hill was immediately behind him. No condensing breath--a perfect summer evening. The only other natural light was from some fireflies, that were actually off to my right, and not in the line of vision.
"Who is this that lights the wigwam?
With his great eyes lights the wigwam?"
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hi lordclod--indie farmer answered your question about the temp/humidity that night. So---no light source was visible behind the creature, or behind us. He was actually coming down a trail from an uphill position when we apparently surprised him, causing him to duck down behind my vehicle. This hill was immediately behind him. No condensing breath--a perfect summer evening. The only other natural light was from some fireflies, that were actually off to my right, and not in the line of vision.


thanks for your reply NurseVal.

i must admit, that photo is intriguing, so much so i looked at it for a long time. it really looks like an eye, and as i've never seen that phenomena for myself, i was compelled to try and figure out if i could find anything else that looks like it, and i did a series of obligatory google searches.

of course, this is not scientifically rigorous and is not proof of anything, but i note several interesting findings from my cursory research.

i've read on the board a lot of posters who compare and contrast human characteristics with that of what is surmised to be attributed to BF, and it seems to me if you change the premise of the argument about what BF is, the noted characteristics of BF fall more in line with another hominid family.

to wit: first, i started with the premise that your photo reveals a creature that has some degree of light reflecting material in the eye, like many nocturnal animals do. you state that you took the photo with a film camera loaded with Kodak Ektar 100 film, so i did a google search for this film type with the following terms:

Kodak 100 speed Ektar color negative film eye at night

one of the search returns was a photo forum which caught my eye because it talked about photographers noticing a bluish cast in photos taken with that particular film:

http://photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00Y1jA

i thought this was interesting because i noticed a bluish cast in your photo, which was the first one that was not marked as retouched, so i assumed that it was un-retouched. that it has a bluish cast seems to me to confirm that the photo seems to be of an "eye" or similar item, but may not be accurately displayed as far as color is concerned, which corroborates your stated observation that the eye(s) appeared to be another color (deep red, i believe you said).

since light is essentially radiation, i thought about how the radiation could or would have been caught by the film. if you had shot with a more light sensitive film, i might have surmised that the radiation may have been merely the difference in temperature between the environment and the actual heat of the blood of a creature as it travels through the blood vessels in the eye, which is relatively transparent to radiation when compared to skin or skin covered with hair or fur.

also, you stated that the creature seemed surprised, which may have caused it to widen it's eyes in shock. shock may have also raised it's blood pressure, causing more "hot" blood to rush around the body, including the eye. furthermore, there is the possibility that there is a nictitating membrane involved, but only one mammal with a nicitating membrane is known to have a functioning one. it's interesting to note that humans have a vestigial nictitating membrane (look under "Eye" heading).

since it was ISO 100, which is excellent nighttime and DAYTIME film, i tend to think that this is not the case. i think it would be interesting to see a photo captured with a really light (radiation) sensitive film like an ISO 1600 speed and the camera stabilized with at least a monopod, if not a tripod. i am not trying to step on any toes here, just offering a suggestion, ok?

since the film was ISO 100, i concluded that the film picked up some radiation that was within the wavelengths of visible light, which is really exciting. what would make that light (radiation) appear, not only to the human eye observing but also to the camera's film?

since i don't know of any land animal which generates it's own light -- even though some sea creatures do -- i then thought about reflective materials in the eye. the most prevalent, and the only one which appears in land-based creatures who are not suffering from a disease or abnormal body condition like leukocoria is the possession of a reflective membrane called the tapetum lucidum. since humans have no reflective layer in their eyes, and that both humans and BF seem to be hominids, i then proceeded on the premise/assumption that BF is not really a human-type "hominid", but is a "hominid" that has a tapetum lucidum within its eye.

so the search became a search for the "hominid," (and by "hominid" i am really referring to primates), that is a creature that has a primate-like appearance and behavior, but also has eyes which shine at night.

i looked for the lowest form of primate, and came across a description of the prosimians. one of the most interesting things on that page is the noting of "Prosimians actively scent-mark their territories to warn other animals of their occupancy. The scent-marks are made with a strong-smelling fluid produced by special glands, or with urine or feces." so i wondered if there were any other primates further along the primate family tree that fit the premises/assumptions.

and i think i found at least one family of primates which fit the descriptions that i've read about people observing in BF encounters, over and over again, and i tell you, when i read some of the behaviors, it gave me chills and only reinforced my belief that this creature is real. the primate classification from the website above is this one:

Hylobatidae. This is a family of six species of gibbon apes, which are tail-less, highly arboreal and agile, and have loud, complex vocalizations (known as "songs"). Examples are the black gibbon (Hylobates concolor) of Southeast Asia and the siamang (Symphalangus syndactylus) of Malaysia and Sumatra.

here's an interesting link: http://www.gibbons.de/main2/08teach...gibbonfact.html

when i saw the face of the first animal on the right-hand side of the page the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and i got a chill. as i read the descriptions of the animals in that primate group, i really thought that i was reading some of the descriptions of the purported BF group! and then i saw this film, after more searching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqPtVWrOjs4

that sure looks like a mini-squatch to me! the hair, the proportions, the face... just in miniature, which of course is a big objection to it being relate to BF... but it's fun to think about it being possible!

so, i had a really great time thinking about what your eyeshine photo could be, and that image took me on an interesting thought journey.

thank you for posting the picture of the eyeshine!

i don't think my journey on the internets has really produced any scientific proof of ANYTHING at all, but i can see many possibilities that BF does exist, both from the excellent research done by the BFRO and others, and the seeming link to animals we do know about and have observed. i hope you'll have more pictures resulting from your research to share in the future.

lord clod

 
 
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Hi Lord Clod,

We will have more photos to share as soon as folks like you get out there and take them. I used a 400 speed negative film and secured a photo of what I believe is eyeglow, about a year before Val captured her photo. It was way over-exposed. The 100 speed film seems plenty sensitive enought to capture the light that we are observing.


If your mind is empty, it's always ready for anything and is open to everything. In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's mind there are few.†

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Hi Lord Clod,

We will have more photos to share as soon as folks like you get out there and take them. I used a 400 speed negative film and secured a photo of what I believe is eyeglow, about a year before Val captured her photo. It was way over-exposed. The 100 speed film seems plenty sensitive enought to capture the light that we are observing.




hi Indie Farmer,

i am unsure of how to take your statement as i am unsure of the tone of what you are trying to say, but i would love to get out there and do my own research.

i haven't had any personal experiences with BF, nor do i know anyone who has, so my interest has been not informed by anything other that my own curious observations of other's research materials. i slowly went from non-interest, to mildly interested after seeing a few TV shows about BF, to 80 percent convinced that BF exists after seeing a show which examined the PG film (it might have been MonsterQuest, I don't remember right now) to about 90 percent now after viewing NurseVal's eyeshine photo as well as all the research done by the BFRO.

what is the point of all that? well, in order for me to get off my duff and commit to getting out in the field, i have to be convinced that i would be heading in the right direction. my examination of the photo and the subsequent internet "research" is part of that process, you know? i do appreciate the opportunity to participate in other's research, and hope that those researchers would be patient with those of us who haven't been in the field yet.

thank you,
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