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DMargaretW
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I came across an article about these bears in the zoo in Germany. For whatever reason they are losing all their fur.
Look at the pics. Even a half blind person can tell that the Jacob's creature and those bears don't look anything alike.
I am posting the link two ways in hopes that one of them work.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...ffles-vets.html
Bald bears
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Wahlgren
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| Posted: November 5th, 2009 11:35 AM |
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Interesting.
I still think that the hind legs of a bear looks a lot like the ones on the Jacob's creature. |
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rmcdaniel423
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| Posted: November 5th, 2009 07:08 PM |
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I'm skeptical about the Jacob's photos. I realize that probably puts me in the minority around here, but I'm OK with that. There is a vid on youtube ("Response to Jacobs Photos - COMMENTS WELCOME" is the title) which has likely been discussed here before. The notion that we may be seeing the creature from the wrong perspective is very compelling to me. I too originally thought we were seeing some sort of primate. However, once it was shown that it may instead be a bear facing toward the camera, instead of a primate bending over away from the camera, I changed my mind. I now fall in the category of "simplest answer is probably correct answer." Regardless of which interpretation you prefer, I don't think the pictures or the alternate versions of "analysis" are clear or perfect enough to be definitive. Either way you are left with nothing more than a "best guess". Of course, that in no way negates the thousands of other encounters across North America (and elsewhere).
Oh . . . and that German Zoo Bear is pretty bizarre. What a sad condition. Funny looking. But sad.
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Yeomra
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| Posted: November 7th, 2009 05:41 PM |
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Quote:
Wahlgren wrote:
Interesting.
I still think that the hind legs of a bear looks a lot like the ones on the Jacob's creature.
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I agree. Remarkably similar. The hips of the mother bear also resemble the hips of the JC. But, annoyingly, the body proportions of the JC don't really look typically bear-like. Inconclusive, I guess, but there is no way I'll ever be convinced it's nothing but a bear.
I've heard that there are other pictures of the mother bear that haven't been published. Regardless, as with all photographic or video evidence of sasquatch (with the exception of the PGF, that one is untouchable) the JC photo's are vague and ambiguous enough to not be able to make a definite conclusion as to what it truly is.
I still have that aching feeling that something is not quite right with these photos. Or that something is missing...not that I feel like the BFRO is trying to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, please don't make that assumption. I know this organization is professional and legit.
Something is not quite right. But, it's been beaten to death...(the argument, not the JC, I hope!)
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Harpoonfisher
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 08:12 AM |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74oHF-RCJk
This video at 1:03 and 1:20 exposed how the “Response to Jacobs Photos” video author altered photos and falsified information to make the Jacobs creature look like a bear. This was done at several locations. Then there was other evidence of foul play by the pro bear camp. There were no missing pictures they are all available from the BFRO. I feel the shape and proportional dimensions are all wrong for a bear. The missing picture rumor wasn’t anything more than another ploy by the same organizations that falsified information to make it look like a bear.
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ApesAmongUs
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 12:27 PM |
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| Excellent post. Very strong case for a primate IMO. |
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Wahlgren
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 04:55 PM |
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| I liked the post as well, it gives you something to think about. Still, to me it sure looks like a bear from behind. But it obviously looks a lot like a primate as well, it's just that there actually were bears at the site when the photos were taken, and even some being captured by the camera. So I still think there's a much greater chance that it was one of the bears that got caught in the photo, rather than the elusive creature we know as bigfoot. |
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Bob The Builder
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 06:51 PM |
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| Bears have a high prevalence in regions said to be inhabited by Bigfoot. In Pennsylvania you’re almost guaranteed to see bear or deer every time you go into the woods, and if there’s bait something is going to be there. Bear in the area is no indication that the Jacob creature is a bear. Especially when it was reported that none of the animal’s, "deer or bear" came back to the baited site after the creature was there. A bear wouldn’t have that effect on a baited area. I seen lots of bears that thing doesn’t look anything like a bear skinny or not. |
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robday
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 07:12 PM |
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Hi Bob-
This is how I feel about it:
Based on the odds, it is "most likely" to be a bear. But looking at those pics, there is no way I can wrap my brain around the idea that it's a bear.
I too have seen plenty of bears, even skinny ones. I just can't see a bear in those pics. And I also don't see any signs of mange, which seems to be the prevailing skeptical argument (mangy bear).
I'm not going so far as to claim to know what it is, but I feel pretty strongly that it is NOT a bear. |
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Bob The Builder
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| Posted: November 8th, 2009 07:54 PM |
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| Yeah Rob, and maybe I'm crazy but it almost seems like it was stalking the bear. Watching curiously from a distance, then it waited until they were gone to investigate. |
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Buttersquatch
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| Posted: December 16th, 2009 07:42 AM |
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Yes this argument has been beaten to death and both sides may be guilty of manipulating the photos in their favor but thats besides the point.
1st off the photos in this thread are not even the same species bear thats in Jacob's photos but that doesnt matter, your bald bears just show more similarities between the two.
I think ill take the word of Dr. Meldrum and Dr. Lynn Rogers any how.
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BFSanctum
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| Posted: December 16th, 2009 11:29 AM |
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I have a Doberman with a Thyroid condition. She started going bald and had we not discovered the problem and corrected it with medication she would have ended up just like those bears. She was also lethargic and OVERWEIGHT due to her condition so that doesn't explain the Jacobs creature who seemed to look a bit on the skinny side. Those bears could have a genetic thyroid condition though. I wonder if the staff at the zoo has run tests for that.
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Harpoonfisher
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| Posted: December 18th, 2009 11:04 PM |
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Quote:
Buttersquatch wrote:
Yes this argument has been beaten to death and both sides may be guilty of manipulating the photos in their favor but thats besides the point.
1st off the photos in this thread are not even the same species bear thats in Jacob's photos but that doesnt matter, your bald bears just show more similarities between the two.
I think ill take the word of Dr. Meldrum and Dr. Lynn Rogers any how.
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Me too, especially before Dr.Meldrum looked at the trick photo and said the proportions are not bear like but are more like a human. And when Dr. Lynn Rogers said if it was a bear it was the longest legged one he has ever seen! Or when he said he couldn't tell what it was for sure unless he was there when the photo was taken. After all when the best efforts at measuring the proportions don't come close to match a bears it probably wasn't one. |
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