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Derek Randles will be available to answer questions about the tracks, but not about the area where the tracks were found.
There is a private property involved here, along with a lot of cameras that will be set up in the nearby woods over the next few weeks.
Derek,
Please reply to this thread to show you are online and receiving information.
We are hoping to receive more information about activity in the Puget Sound region of western Washington State.
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Rictor
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| Posted: March 11th, 2009 03:10 PM |
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| I looked at all the snow track reports and I believe this one is the real deal. My question is, out of all the 24 tracks, was it a single animal alone? And is there any idea how old the snow tracks were? |
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ravellette
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| Posted: March 11th, 2009 06:33 PM |
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When a sasquatch is moving slower (i.e. their tracks show a shorter stride) the pattern is more like the zig-zag pattern of a human walk. As the stride gets longer, however, the footprints are more or less directly in front of each other.
Now if you look at the Wisconsin pattern, the prints were long strides and straight. Just as much Snow!
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Trax
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| Posted: March 11th, 2009 08:38 PM |
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these look amazing! they just scream Bigfoot to me! awesome guys!
the truth is out there.... |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 13th, 2009 08:19 PM |
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I looked at all the snow track reports and I believe this one is the real deal. My question is, out of all the 24 tracks, was it a single animal alone? And is there any idea how old the snow tracks were?
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Rictor, I'm pretty sure the tracks were about 4 or 5 hours old.
There was only one animal. It left tracks the day before but they were very melted. |
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arcturus
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| Posted: March 15th, 2009 11:53 AM |
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| Derek, was there any other evidence or signs in the area? and how deep was the snow? |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 16th, 2009 10:37 AM |
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Derek, was there any other evidence or signs in the area? and how deep was the snow?
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I was in the area due to an investigation. Two days before the tracks were found we heard many vocalizations in the area. Since then we have gathered several hair samples, some of which are now under study. The research there is on-going. We have several cameras deployed, and continue to search the area vigorously.
The snow was only about 2 or 3 inches deep. There was only snow left in the meadow. |
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streetmedic
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| Posted: March 16th, 2009 11:33 PM |
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Too melted to tell, but like some of the others, it could be rabbit jumping in deep snow. None of the traks are fresh and have no detail. Above pic #1 are some simular traks but cant see them very well. I have hunted Rabbit befor and thats the way Im leaning.
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 17th, 2009 10:27 AM |
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Too melted to tell, but like some of the others, it could be rabbit jumping in deep snow. None of the traks are fresh and have no detail. Above pic #1 are some simular traks but cant see them very well. I have hunted Rabbit befor and thats the way Im leaning.
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The tracks above pic one are my tracks.
All due respect, these are not rabbit tracks. I've been a wildlife tracker for 23 years, and I can assure you, I do know the difference. These tracks were not made by a rabbit. The tracks continued into the woods for some distance. Up grades, down hills and around corners. I followed them until they came to a hard pack dirt road where I lost the trail. These are not the only Bigfoot tracks found at this site. |
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Cervelorod
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| Posted: March 17th, 2009 01:56 PM |
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Links to pics?
Any less general statement than Puget Sound area? North / South, Olympia, Port Angeles? |
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Trax
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| Posted: March 17th, 2009 02:27 PM |
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Too melted to tell, but like some of the others, it could be rabbit jumping in deep snow. None of the traks are fresh and have no detail. Above pic #1 are some simular traks but cant see them very well. I have hunted Rabbit befor and thats the way Im leaning.
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I've hunted rabbits also and used to live in New Hampshire where they have snowshoe hares, the only problem I have with your theory is the rear part of the footprint is way to wide to be a rabbit. most of the rabbit tracks i've followed in the show have a definite triangular shape to them due to the fact that the front feet are smaller and more round than the rear feet that are placed around and in front of the front feet.and the snow just wasn't deep enough for the body of the rabbit to be rounding it off IMHO.
I always am looking for the naturtal cause for something like this BEFORE jumping to the conclusion it HAD to be Bigfoot. in this case I can't say rabbit at all. at least not from the photos shown here.
(Edited by Trax)
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Bossburg
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| Posted: March 17th, 2009 03:21 PM |
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Links to pics?
Any less general statement than Puget Sound area? North / South, Olympia, Port Angeles?
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Please read the information on this page:
http://www.bfro.net/news/SnowTracks/index.asp
Then read the information on this page:
http://www.bfro.net/news/SnowTracks/WA-tab.asp
You will notice that IF a location is given (or not) there is a reason. We've asked that people not request more information as to location.
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streetmedic
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| Posted: March 18th, 2009 04:20 AM |
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The tracks above pic one are my tracks.
All due respect, these are not rabbit tracks. I've been a wildlife tracker for 23 years, and I can assure you, I do know the difference. These tracks were not made by a rabbit. The tracks continued into the woods for some distance. Up grades, down hills and around corners. I followed them until they came to a hard pack dirt road where I lost the trail. These are not the only Bigfoot tracks found at this site.
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Thanks for the coment Derek, its nice to have more info to go with the tracks. Are they the best photos you have?
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 18th, 2009 10:20 AM |
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Thanks for the coment Derek, its nice to have more info to go with the tracks. Are they the best photos you have?
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Thanks John. Yes I do have more pictures. If you send me an e-mail I'd be happy to send them to you. Actually, the best one I have didn't get used here. D |
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Bavarian Raven
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| Posted: March 18th, 2009 04:39 PM |
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| at first glance i thought they might be old snowshoe tracks, but when i enlarged them (am using a crappy old PC atm) you can see that they do indeed look "humanish" (in the fact that the shape and the such resembles an overly large human track). very interesting find... |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 20th, 2009 10:08 AM |
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at first glance i thought they might be old snowshoe tracks, but when i enlarged them (am using a crappy old PC atm) you can see that they do indeed look "humanish" (in the fact that the shape and the such resembles an overly large human track). very interesting find...
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The stride was really amazing. Even down through the woods it never really short stepped. I found it impossible to match. |
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Trax
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| Posted: March 20th, 2009 10:21 AM |
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Derrek, how did you locate the first set of tracks you found in this area? what brought you to this particular location in the first place?
the truth is out there.... |
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Trax
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| Posted: March 20th, 2009 10:27 AM |
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also, have you noticed a pattern in the way a BF walks? as in do they always walk in a straight line like theyre on a mission to go somewhere and not meandering here and there in a random pattern? you can tell feeding tracks of a deer as well as a track of a buck on a mission when he's looking for a receptive doe during the rut.
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 10:57 AM |
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Derrek, how did you locate the first set of tracks you found in this area? what brought you to this particular location in the first place?
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I was in the area investigating a report. The tracks were found on the third day of the investigation. |
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ravellette
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 11:13 AM |
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Were they three days old that you know of?
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 11:14 AM |
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Trax wrote:
also, have you noticed a pattern in the way a BF walks? as in do they always walk in a straight line like theyre on a mission to go somewhere and not meandering here and there in a random pattern? you can tell feeding tracks of a deer as well as a track of a buck on a mission when he's looking for a receptive doe during the rut.
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Every good track line I've ever found travels in a very straight line, with the exeption of terrain and obstacles. I found one track line in the Blue Mts that actually walked backwards in a straight line in and out of a tree line. |
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ravellette
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 11:17 AM |
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Instead of turning around, it went backwards out of the tree line? Hmmmmm
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Trax
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 11:21 AM |
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backwards? how could you tell that? and why would they do that? that one sounds like the work of a hoaxer to me. if the BF was trying to avoid being seen it might back up for a short ways to get back into cover then turn and exit the area. thats my take on it.
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davec46
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 02:29 PM |
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maybe the bigfoot was following the scent of deer
I'm interested in Bigfoot |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 04:45 PM |
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Instead of turning around, it went backwards out of the tree line? Hmmmmm
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IT walked out of the tree line about 4 steps, and then instead of turning around it just backed up. I think it might have had it's eyes on something. There was a foot trail about 40 yards away. I'm guessing here, but I think it saw something on the trail and backed up slowly. |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 04:49 PM |
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backwards? how could you tell that? and why would they do that? that one sounds like the work of a hoaxer to me. if the BF was trying to avoid being seen it might back up for a short ways to get back into cover then turn and exit the area. thats my take on it.
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When it backed up, it stepped on the other tracks. Not exactly on top of them, but close. |
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Derek Randles
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 04:53 PM |
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Were they three days old that you know of?
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I think they were only 4 or 5 hours old. It was warming up very fast. |
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ravellette
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 06:42 PM |
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Wow what luck having them so fresh.
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Trax
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 08:43 PM |
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When it backed up, it stepped on the other tracks. Not exactly on top of them, but close.
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I think that's very interesting! especially the part where you said it stopped and then backed up. I can totally visualize that. too cool!
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davec46
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| Posted: March 23rd, 2009 08:56 PM |
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me to. maybe it smelled some thing and decided to turn around
I'm interested in Bigfoot |
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