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cmknight
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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 10:33 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Calling all British Columbia Squatchers !!!

We have a thread about Vancouver Island. Thanks to Simplicity's suggestion, I would like to expand that thread to include all of BC.

Which areas do you think are under/over investigated, and where do you think would be good areas to investigate?

Personally, I think that the East Kootenays would be an excellent area. I have heard of several stories concerning Kokanee Glacier National Park, plus my own experiences (for lack of a better word) around the Robson/Castlegar area (lots of coyotes ... and something that's NOT a coyote). Being an amateur astronomer, I used to spend long hours outside at night, eyeball to the eyepiece, doing long exposure astrophotography. Many times I have had feelings of being watched, and heard footsteps in the farmer's field next to my place in Robson.

For those who don't know, the East Kootenays is largely forested with small towns/villages nestled here and there. There are a few big towns, like Castlegar, Trail, and Nelson, and most of the land is "people-free". The Arrow Lakes is basically a dam reservoir, and the Columbia and Kootenay rivers join up at Castlegar. The city of Nelson and Kootenay Lake are a short distance away, and lining Kootenay Lake are forested areas which haven't been touched for tens of years.

Which other areas of BC do you consider to be prime Bigfoot areas, and which areas do you think are over/under investigated?
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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 12:40 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

I totally agree with you, CMK. A year or so ago I was driving from my house, which is just south of the Canadian border, towards Calgary to attend the Alberta 2009 expedition. While driving through the eastern half of BC I saw six mountain sheep, two bears, and numerous deer cross the roads in front of me. All on the same morning!

BC has got to be some of the finest squatch habitat on earth. PBYodeler lives in BC and has been on numerous expeditions there. Maybe he'll jump in her and give s his thoughts on this topic.
 
 
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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 08:32 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Where exactly in Robson did you live cmknight? My mother-in-law is on Jones Rd. Directly across the water from the mill.

Like I mentioned in my PM to you.. i'm definitely going to have to get out squatchin the next time I go there. I just have to keep an eye out for the "pet" black bear that comes down to her backyard and eats the cherries off the tree in the backyard! haha. Last time we were there my wife got a bunch of pictures of him. Literally 10 feet away from us.. (but we were on the deck).
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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 10:13 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Cool thread..

Seriously, absolutely PRIME BF Habitat/Area, for most of the Province..

I'm looking forward to learning about BC & areas of BF Habitat via this Thread..
I have a feeling something BIG is gonna happen withn the world of the Big Guy soon.. Just a hunch of course..
 
 
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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 10:43 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Good places to look? Anywhere there is forest thick enough for cover and a good water supply. My favorites are the Harrison Lake/Ruby creek areas and west into the Chehalis River valley.

Over investigated? I don't think that's possible.

Under investigated? All of the forested areas right on the edge of major metropolitan communities. I know of an area where it only takes about fifteen minutes to drive to the trailhead from the city and about an hour's hike into the bush back in the general direction of town where we've found tracks,heard vocals and been followed on several occasions.

John Green told us once "Look in your own back yard". Meaning that you don't need to travel all over the country to find places that have a good population of BF's. If there's large forests close to home there's a really good chance the big guys are there too. Charles can attest to that. He's got a place almost outside his back door where he's found some good stuff.

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 Posted: November 17th, 2010 10:56 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

I could not agree more with John Green's statement. I used to travel hours from my home in my search. As it turned out, my greatest successes have been quite literally in my own back yard. Just keep in mind the three W's when looking for a locale: Water, Woods, and a Way out. Google Earth is great for that and I am looking at BC right now.... mouth drooling
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 Posted: November 18th, 2010 03:13 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

There have been a few stories come out of the Kokanee Glacier National Park and the East side of Kootenay Lake. Some of the people who frequent the Laska Creek area have spoken of strange sounds. Of course, these same people think the trees talk to them when the wind whistles through the branches, too.

I think it was 1994 or 5 when I heard about a group who was planning a Bigfoot expedition in the Park. Never did hear if anything came of it. have to see if I can find the old newspaper story.
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 05:07 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Anyone ever heard stories from Golden ears parks? I don't get out into the woods much but when I do that's my primary stomp.

Honestly, my feeling is that BC is pretty much a fish in a barrel area for anything resting on the axiom of unexplored woodlands. If sasquatch exists and he's not here I would be unbelievably shocked.
 
 
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 05:07 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...705171539584689

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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 05:45 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Swiftspear, LOL. Forgot all about SPP. There's als o a place ... Moirie ... I think it's called. Just a little hole in the wall place on the highway, in the Kootenays. They actually have "Bigfoot crossing" signs. They apparently get quite a bit of activity in the area.

Maybe any mods or investigators know if anything has been done in this area re: expeditions?
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 12:34 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Moyie, you mean? http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sour...6,0.617294&z=11

Agreed.. all through there looks good.

I do the drive from Calgary to Castlegar (which goes through Moyie) semi-regularly to visit the in-laws. One of the last times I went out it was just me and my son. Driving late at night and he was asleep.. going through some squatchy looking spots and I decided to pull over and try some vocalizations. Unfortunately the very first one I did woke up my little guy.. he wakes up in the car which is pulled over on the side of the road in the pitch black and his dad's not there.. I'm sure you can imagine how that went over. haha
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 03:28 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

my favorite region to look for "him" is around the Pitt Lake/Alouette Lake region. i have had some interesting encounters in this area and despite being fairly close to Vancouver, it is remote.
 
 
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 10:01 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Pitt lake is a really nice area, what kind of luck have you had out there? How would you describe the local population?
 
 
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 Posted: November 23rd, 2010 10:11 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

SwiftSpear, (recently), i've had wood knocks and a possible faint howling noise (though the noise part could have been something else, it was distant and muffled by the dense vegetation), and heard a second hand report of a sighting. i think there is a jouvanile or young male in the area i frequent, for the locals (or at least last fall, as my uncle who use to live in the area told me) have reported odd things going missing (Stuff u wouldnt expect to be stolen. a few nails of a railing, stuff like that... though that could be other animals doing as well...

but i have a hunch that in the one nearby valley (a tributary further up pitt lake), there is a family of sasquatches. but that is just a vague hunch i have and i havent been up that way for a while so i have no way of looking into my hunch atm.

overall it is a great region for them...

(over 30 easy to gather wild edibles -> i made a tally once), lots of deer, black bear, elk (recently reintroduced), squirrels, mountain goats, hares, rabbits, 6 types of salmon, trout, white fish... (<-- you get the drift). and lots of forests. if there aint sasquatch here there aint any anywhere imo.
 
 
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 Posted: November 24th, 2010 07:52 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

Moyie ... That's the place. Thanks rbirch.

On the way from Van to Hope, there's a tourist sign for "XXX Falls". Anybody been up that way? Any possibilities / sightings / vocalizations?
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 Posted: November 24th, 2010 08:23 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

That's Bridal Falls and yes there have been sightings on the mountain there. Mostly road crossings.
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Thanks PBY. Every time I passed that area, I kept telling myself, "Gotta go there some time." Another area I find very "Squatchy" is the Bunsen Lake reservoir, north of Port Moody. I used to go fishing up there a lot, and there have been times where everything was really quiet and I felt like I was being watched. Mostly in the late fall when there weren't too many other people around.
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 Posted: November 24th, 2010 11:17 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

cmknight, as for buntzen lake, i know the feeling. but personally i wouldnt expect "him" to be around the lake area most of the year. too crowded. go north a few klicks up indian arm and thats another story... >.>

edit, as an aside, to the east of the lake up atop of Eagle Ridge, there are acres of wild blueberries (literally hundreds of pounds in mid july - to - early august. now that would be a perfect spot for mr. big to be grazing >.>
 
 
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 Posted: November 25th, 2010 02:37 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

BR, I agree, but don't forget, the lake is closed to people after 7 or 8:00 at night. I don't think it would be too daring to suppose that biggie could visit at night and scamper off at sunrise. As an aside, I could be wrong, but isn't the Eagle Ridge area where that young hiker disappeared earlier this summer?
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BR, I agree, but don't forget, the lake is closed to people after 7 or 8:00 at night. I don't think it would be too daring to suppose that biggie could visit at night and scamper off at sunrise. As an aside, I could be wrong, but isn't the Eagle Ridge area where that young hiker disappeared earlier this summer?

Hikers getting hurt or lost is a very common situation in BC. They run a Helicopter almost all summer that just goes up and pulls people off of the Golden Ears one after another.

People don't have enough respect for the dangers of the wild.

If you go somewhere isolated enough and you're unprepared to keep your bearings and make a serious go of survival in BC, I give you a 50/50 chance of ever being found again. Much lower than that of being found alive.
 
 
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 Posted: November 25th, 2010 10:47 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

There was a couple of Bridal Falls Sightings, 2 within a couple of hours of each if i recollect correctly PBY, do you remember ??

A few Years back, within 10 Years though i'd say..

I think the general concensus what that it was the same Animal going back up the Mountain after being down to a lower elevation in the day time, for whatever reason..
I have a feeling something BIG is gonna happen withn the world of the Big Guy soon.. Just a hunch of course..
 
 
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BR, I agree, but don't forget, the lake is closed to people after 7 or 8:00 at night. I don't think it would be too daring to suppose that biggie could visit at night and scamper off at sunrise. As an aside, I could be wrong, but isn't the Eagle Ridge area where that young hiker disappeared earlier this summer?


not to get off topic, but that missing hiker would have been about fifteen to twenty kilometers to the north and east of Eagle Mtn (Formally Mt. Beautiful). He was doing the Squamish to North Coquitlam "Fools Gold Route". He vanished somewhere in the middle of that "hike" (bush-wack really, trust me), near the headwaters of either the Coquitlam or the DeBeck River. Its a rough place, my bet is he slipped in a river crossing or the such.

Its a very wild place back there (yet being only 40ish kilometers from Vancouver BC as a raven would fly) and a good chunk of it old growth. Pristine Sasquatch habitat. In fact stories of the big guy go back a long time up in that region.

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BR, I agree, but don't forget, the lake is closed to people after 7 or 8:00 at night.


well it wouldnt surprise me if the odd one did, it still seems too much risk for little reward. Any resources it could acquire there could easily be obtained to the north in Indian Arm and the headwaters of the upper Coquitlam River. Now that being said, there was that one ealy Summer morning i was hiking with a friend there on the north end of the lake, and something followed us quietly for a good kilometer... and it wasnt a bear (too quiet). Probably just a cougar but one never knows and one can hope

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I think the general concensus what that it was the same Animal going back up the Mountain after being down to a lower elevation in the day time, for whatever reason..


one word answer for "him" being down low... Salmon. (imo).

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one word answer for "him" being down low... Salmon. (imo).

cheers.


Well i'm in agreement with the Food suggestion, but if i remember rightly, at the bottom of the Mountain was people, lots of people & a Water Park too so i was thinking more Garbage or curiosity to be honest..

I do remember looking pretty extensively into the area trying to work out what the Creature was doing & came to those assumptions.

Mount Cheam was the Mountain in question i believe.

Sighting 1 = LOCATION: About 1 mile up Bridal Falls, F.S.R. Fraser Valley, and British Columbia
DATE @ TIME: June 19th, 2008, Aprox 2:30 a.m.

Sighting 2 ( about 4 hours before Sighting 1 ) = LOCATION: About 1/2 mile up Bridal Falls F.S.R. Fraser Valley, British Columbia
DATE @ TIME: June 18th, 2008, Aprox 10 p.m.

I have a feeling something BIG is gonna happen withn the world of the Big Guy soon.. Just a hunch of course..
 
 
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 Posted: November 25th, 2010 10:00 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

the garbage could be an attractant, but i think hundreds of screaming kids might also be worrysome. now that being said, the park is closing down, so maybe the big guy might be around there more now =D
 
 
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 Posted: November 26th, 2010 12:01 AM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

You say the park is being closed down? Will the area still be accessible to researchers, or are they going to gate the road?
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the garbage could be an attractant, but i think hundreds of screaming kids might also be worrysome. now that being said, the park is closing down, so maybe the big guy might be around there more now =D


Either worrysome or entertainment for hours on end, from a safe distance, for a curious Sas & when the Park closes at 19:00, back up the Mountain he goes which coincides with the first Sighting, at 22:00 approx in the evening ??

Are you familiar with the area BR ??

If you are, what's teh deal with Rivers there at the bottom of Mount Cheam & do the Salmon run in June ??

Pretty sure the Road would be still accessible up Mount Cheam CMKnight if the Water Park closes or not..
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 Posted: November 26th, 2010 12:40 PM  Edit Post Delete post Back to top

i am somewhat familiar with the area (having prospected there before), the local streams will have salmon in later summer through mid fall, and some of the larger ones (like Hunter Creek) have resident trout populations. not to mention that from mid July onwards dead salmon begin washing up along the banks of the fraser. also, as an aside, when the salmon fishing rushes are on, many fishermen (not all) leave the entrails of the salmon, and the such on the river bank. maybe the big guy goes down for a midnight snack?

the local forest (western hemlock Biogeoclimatic zone and higher up, Mountain hemlock biogeoclimatic zone) are rich in wild edibles and game animals. plenty for the big guy to eat. the terrain is very rough around there, which means only the most determained hikers and prospectors (like me :P), ever head back in there despite the area being close to the highway.

the forest service roads are open to everyone, just be mindfall of logging trucks and the such

as an aside, since BC is one of the prime regions for Sasquatch activity, maybe there should be a section of the forum just for BC topics (this thread and the Van. Island one as well included). just a friendly thought.

 
 
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as an aside, since BC is one of the prime regions for Sasquatch activity, maybe there should be a section of the forum just for BC topics (this thread and the Van. Island one as well included). just a friendly thought.




Admins,

Would this qualify for the "Canadian Province Specific Info" section?
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i am somewhat familiar with the area (having prospected there before), the local streams will have salmon in later summer through mid fall, and some of the larger ones (like Hunter Creek) have resident trout populations. not to mention that from mid July onwards dead salmon begin washing up along the banks of the fraser. also, as an aside, when the salmon fishing rushes are on, many fishermen (not all) leave the entrails of the salmon, and the such on the river bank. maybe the big guy goes down for a midnight snack?




Wrong time of Year though huh B, June ??
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Wrong time of Year though huh B, June ??


didnt look at the time of year >.> my bad,
now that being said,,,
many of these small streams have fish in them. plus June (at lower elevations), is when the blueberries ripen (huckleberries 2). so maybe he just came to lower elevations to get His daily berries ^^ Not to mention fishermen along the fraser often toss fish remains ashore (all times of year),... plus being at a lower elevation usually makes survival (via foraging) easier most times of the years...

or maybe He is just curious after all ^^
 
 




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