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 Posted November 13th, 2005 08:50 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Fuck you. I've said that a hundred times here and at other boards. I never claimed I said in all in the same quote. What the fuck is your problem?


Must I? I suppose I will be required to ram it down your fucking throat, as distasteful as that sounds or to visualize.

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As I said, hunting is about revenue, big business, not conservation. They have you snowed to believe you're doing your part where really you're just supporting the state's interest.


And nofuckingwhere before you posted your asinine "animals should be left to their own devices..." did you even mention hunting as big business for the state.


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Has nothing to do with hunting, which is the context of population control I was specifically talking about. Want to talk about rehab? Start another thread.


While rehab has nothing to do with hunting, they both go hand in hand when it comes to population control of a species. Wanna get into that?

The deer hunting season: Population control to lessen numbers.

The California Condor: Population control to increase it's numbers.

Get it now? Do ya? Somehow I fucking doubt it, Ms. Dishonesty.

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 Posted November 13th, 2005 08:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Fuck you. I've said that a hundred times here and at other boards.


You sure someone else didn't say it, and you are only confusing it as your own thoughts?
   
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Grace, I'm gonna hunt regardless.

Would you prefer I poach the deer or buy a license to keep the state in business?

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Grace, I'm gonna hunt regardless.

Would you prefer I poach the deer or buy a license to keep the state in business?


Whatever you do, please kill three of them. That is the amount that I figure to be excess.

Grace hasn't told us her figures yet.
   
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As I said, hunting is about revenue, big business, not conservation. They have you snowed to believe you're doing your part where really you're just supporting the state's interest.


So the state passing laws forbidding the hunting, trapping, capture, molesting of the California Condor is in the state's interest?

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You're arguing that the only two things that can happen in an attempt to control a population are:

1. The population remains out of control.


I never said hunting animals keeps their populations 'out of control'. However, now that you mention it, animals have been hunted from the beginning of time. Still, there are species who's populations are in abundance (white tailed deer for one). How do you explain that? How is hunting controlling those numbers? How do we know if hunting ceased, animals/nature would in fact manage their own numbers?

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2. The population is entirely wiped out.


Never said that either. Nearly yes.


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Amazing that hunters can be so ineffective in one case, and deadly efficient in others. Do you have some explanation of this mechanism?


It's not efficient at all. It's called overkill and a major fuck up.
  
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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:07 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hey! Why the fuck can't I hunt Condor's if they are being conserved through a state fund?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...ia+Condor&hl=en

The state is spending money on the Condor population control, but I can't hunt the motherfuckers.

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I never said hunting animals keeps their populations 'out of control'. However, now that you mention it, animals have been hunted from the beginning of time. Still, there are species who's populations are in abundance (white tailed deer for one). How do you explain that? How is hunting controlling those numbers? How do we know if hunting ceased, animals/nature would in fact manage their own numbers?


Never said that either. Nearly yes.


It's not efficient at all. It's called overkill and a major fuck up.


So, by the state regulating whitetail hunting the state is conserving the species to prevent an overkill and extinction?

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Must I? I suppose I will be required to ram it down your fucking throat, as distasteful as that sounds or to visualize.And nofuckingwhere before you posted your asinine "animals should be left to their own devices..." did you even mention hunting as big business for the state.


So fucking what? I don't understand what the hell you're getting at. I'm not allowed to speak freely in a post and add something I've mentioned umpteen times before to drive a point? Get over it alfuckingready you're sounding obesssed.


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While rehab has nothing to do with hunting, they both go hand in hand when it comes to population control of a species. Wanna get into that?


No shit. As I said, when it comes to HUNTING, animals should be left to their own devices when it comes to population control.


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The deer hunting season: Population control to lessen numbers.

The California Condor: Population control to increase it's numbers.

Get it now? Do ya? Somehow I fucking doubt it, Ms. Dishonesty.


Yep. Hunters fucking up the balance of nature once again.
  
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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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So fucking what? I don't understand what the hell you're getting at. I'm not allowed to speak freely in a post and add something I've mentioned umpteen times before to drive a point? Get over it alfuckingready you're sounding obesssed.


Festus

No shit. As I said, when it comes to HUNTING, animals should be left to their own devices when it comes to population control.


Festus

Yep. Hunters fucking up the balance of nature once again.


Hell you care about the balance of nature? Don't you live in a house? Don't you drive a car?

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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:12 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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I never said hunting animals keeps their populations 'out of control'. However, now that you mention it, animals have been hunted from the beginning of time. Still, there are species who's populations are in abundance (white tailed deer for one). How do you explain that? How is hunting controlling those numbers? How do we know if hunting ceased, animals/nature would in fact manage their own numbers?


How do YOU explain there are hunted species that are abundant, when you simultaneously wail that hunting wipes out species?

Having management implies a plan with a conscious goal for the future. "Nature" has no such plan, unless you wish to introduce evidence of the supernatural.

One would think you would want to focus on the fact that when animal populations are managed, it is done reference the interests of the people doing the management.

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It's not efficient at all. It's called overkill and a major fuck up.


But then, if they kill just enough, the management has been successful.
   
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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:13 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
How do you know that the population of Florida panthers isn't just right, right now?
   
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No shit. As I said, when it comes to HUNTING, animals should be left to their own devices when it comes to population control.


Okay. Let them run, let them hide, let them fight back. But by no means should a law be passed to protect their lives or their numbers, since it's completely in their hands to sustain their own species and numbers by their own devices.

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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Hunters fucking up the balance of nature once again.


How could you possibly determine when nature is balanced?
   
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Okay. Let them run, let them hide, let them fight back. But by no means should a law be passed to protect their lives or their numbers, since it's completely in their hands to sustain their own species and numbers by their own devices.



This is what you are espousing now, right?

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Weren't you fucking up the balance of nature when you snatched that opossum from its fate?
   
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Weren't you fucking up the balance of nature when you snatched that opossum from its fate?


No, no, no, no RF, that's not a form of population control. You can interfere in the possums own devices as long as it saves the possums life. Get it right, man.

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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Okay. Let them run, let them hide, let them fight back. But by no means should a law be passed to protect their lives or their numbers, since it's completely in their hands to sustain their own species and numbers by their own devices.



Heh. That's a damn good point, and one I can entirely agree with.

Bet Grace crawdads though.
   
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No, no, no, no RF, that's not a form of population control. You can interfere in the possums own devices as long as it saves the possums life. Get it right, man.


But, but, but....how is it you can interfere in a shrimp's life, and the shrimp ends up in your belly?

'Cause shrimp taste better than possum?
   
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But, but, but....how is it you can interfere in a shrimp's life, and the shrimp ends up in your belly?

'Cause shrimp taste better than possum?


Who the fuck feels sorry for a shrimp?

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I think Grace is trying to figure out how she can adequately explain how SHE can determine the proper balance of nature.
   
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Who the fuck feels sorry for a shrimp?


Not terribly cute, are they?

And not only that, but stuffing them in her face makes her feel better than saving them.

Only shrimp that Grace saves, go home with her in a carryout.
   
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 Posted November 13th, 2005 09:26 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
"I'm gonna save THESE shrimp to munch on during Letterman, later!"
   
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Grace, the next time you start babbling about how wrong it is to kill animals for human purpose, can you finish chewing those shrimp first? Pretty disgusting and uncouth table manners you got there.
   
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It's wrong to kill CUTE animals, but we aren't allowed to mention esthetics.

Well....we could just comment on how completely stupid is that particular moral judgment.
   
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I wonder if Grace knows about this. Really should leave those lobsters alone. Lobsters and shrimp, mmm-mmm-good.

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NOTE: The following story, currently circulating by email, contains adult content and should not be read by anyone who is easily offended, faint of heart, or who has close emotional ties to crustaceans.

Susy DeLucci and the Miracle of Life.
One morning around 5 am 22 year old Susan DaLucci of Kittery Maine, woke up with a painful need to urinate. At first she thought she had diarrhea, but when she stood up out of bed, she realized that it was urinary pain.

It was very similar to the feeling of having diarrhea, just out the wrong hole. She wobbled to the toilet and upon sitting on it, her vagina erupted into the most horrific messy farting noise anyone has ever heard. In paralyzing pain, Ms. DeLucci for the next few minutes continued to push and squirt out of her vagina a burning tide of wretch and filth while she gripped the sides of the toilet, white-knuckled. She was screaming wildly, and the neighbors called the police. When medics arrived they found Ms. DeNucci unconscious lying on the floor of her bathroom wearing nothing but her bath robe. Running down her leg, was a stream of brown and green syrup. The medic had to transfer her to a stretcher, so he grabbed her left leg which was bent crossing her other leg, to straighten her out. She was lying there all twisted up. When he lifted her left leg to straighten her body out, he exposed her vagina at which point a creature, no larger than the tip of a finger wormed its way out of her genitals and landed on the floor with a wet popping sound.

Shocked, the medic stared at the creature that was lying on the tile bathroom floor in a casing of mucous. It was a tiny mud shrimp and it sat there on the cold floor gasping for water while flipping itself back and forth. The horrified medic turned to the toilet as he felt the nausea setting in. When he put his face down into the toilet to puke what he saw was so horrific that to this day he cannot look into a toilet without convulsing. The entire toilet bowl was boiling with baby brown mud shrimp flipping and splashing at a furious pace. If you think that is bad - wait until you hear how it happened:

Ms. DeLucci official death was the result of a combination of shock and severe head trauma. She stood up over the toilet in pain and when she saw what she had done, she went into shock and fell, smashing her head on the toilet and then on the floor. It is believed by medical police that on two nights before the accident she had purchased a live lobster at a fish market. While lying in a tub, she gently inserted the creature's tail into her vagina to derive pleasure. At that point, she held a lighter under the creature's face causing it to flip its tail in a violent snapping motion. The medics found a lesbian XXX video in the VCR and the TV was positioned on a table in front of the tub.

The lobster was found in the kitchen garbage can wrapped in a paper bag. Traces of Ms. DeLucci's DNA were found on the lobster along with pubic hairs that had wedged themselves between the lobster tail joints. The lobster's face was lightly burned with the same fuel used in lighters. The lobster's digestive track and colon were found to be full of mud shrimp egg casings. Doctors believe that the lobster had eaten them (they are common in the water at fish markets and are usually harmlessly boiled to death) and the lobster had crapped them out into Ms. DeLucci's cunt when she was torturing it. Maine mud shrimp only take two days to gestate and Ms. DeLucci was only four days away from getting her period, doctors believe that at that point of her menstrual cycle, her womb was the perfect PH balance to grow these mud shrimp which are a much larger version of the popular "Sea Monkey" pets sold throughout the US.

Over night the eggs had hatched and the mud shrimp began doubling in size every ten minutes. You can imagine the pain she was in when she woke up that morning and gave birth to well over 1,000 mud shrimp in her toilet.

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Or we could note that Grace's alternate rule is: It's wrong to kill animals except for those animals that Grace thinks it isn't wrong to kill.

Trouble is, everyone has to ask Grace for permission before they can kill an animal. Course...she DOES know what the balance of nature is supposed to be...so likely that's where she gets all that authority.
   
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I wonder if Grace knows about this. Really should leave those lobsters alone. Lobsters and shrimp, mmm-mmm-good.




Well that's disturbing.

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The following story, currently circulating by email, contains adult content and should not be read by anyone who is easily offended, faint of heart, or who has close emotional ties to crustaceans.


Like Ms. DeNucci herself?
   
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#1...grace...the people who started killing cougars wanted them erradicated im guessing...then the state came in and fucked up their plan.

#2 rf makes a great case when he suggests it's quite possble the fla panther may be at a perfect level of population working toward a decline. makes sense...i mean considering the state of fla's need to make room for the overtanned and elderly it only makes sense to wipe out the rest of their habitat.

#3 what makes you think festus agrees with the state charging him for a hunting license? what makes you think he participates in the "big business"?
   
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I wonder if Grace knows about this. Really should leave those lobsters alone. Lobsters and shrimp, mmm-mmm-good.




Okay...that can't be true, right?

No woman (in her right mind that is) wishes to stick sea creature tails up her snatch...horse dicks maybe...but not sea creature tails.

What?

Kathryn The Great WAS in her right mind, right?

Okay...the story, if true, is both sad and highly amusing.


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