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September 24th, 2009 12:01 AM
narrowfoot I have posted some photos on flickr.com that I have taken of tree structures in a small area of the upper midwest. These are on several pieces of adjacent private property, and so I am not providing a more exact location. There is seasonal human occupation in the surrounding area. A few miles away lies a large area of public land where tree structures also appear and disappear, and I have made a report about that land. BFRO knows the nearest highway and the nearest body of water. Here is the link to my pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitaluser/sets/72157622318831057/

The first two photos are of the same large structure, as are some other pairs. In several instances, I wanted to provide first the whole structure and then a closeup of a particularly interesting part of it. Picture 6 shows the same structure as Picture 7 and Picture 8 (labeled 4a,4b and 4c in the enlarged versions), from different angles. Note that in the third row, the first, fourth, and sixth photos show possible footprints. The last one, which is only a few inches long, is a few feet from the 'table setting' in the previous photo. I have never seen human children playing in that area, but I don't actually know who placed the flat stones and the sand filled salt shaker on the large rock! I can only speculate that this area may be a summertime nursery for a mother and her child or children. Not too far away, the tent shaped structure 4b stands next to a patch of soft grass, and this seems a natural play area. Most of the other structures bar the way to human habitations, or possibly mark trails. Some have been there for several years, some are new. I recognized them after reading this site and seeing similar photos. They are fascinating, and I feel I have been rewarded for observing but not touching these structures.
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September 24th, 2009 02:55 PM
Bossburg narrowfoot: Thanks for posting your photos and thanks for using flickr. Sure makes it easier to view them. For those who have not used flickr, when you open the above link, you can then click on 'slideshow' in the upper right corner of the screen. On the next screen, in the lower right corner you will find four arrows, click on the upper right one and you can view full screen as it runs through the slideshow.

In each individual area, are all the trees from that specific area...have any of them been 'imported'? Has the salt shaker always been on the rock or did it appear (or disappear) the next time you were there? Excellent area, thanks for sharing.
September 24th, 2009 03:23 PM
robday Hi Narrowfoot-
The pictures 1a and 1b are very interesting. I have a hard time figuring out how a natural event would place that large tree "big end up" among the other branches. And it looks to be blocking a path, like you said.

Pics 4a and 4b appear human to me. I used to build this kind of thing for fun as a kid. The construction looks too detailed and discerning for me to jump to a BF conclusion, but of course I could be wrong.

The first track print is VERY interesting. It's huge. And it looks as if there are toe impressions as well. The other track pics are interesting, but not enough detail is visible for me to make a guess. I'm sure they looked much better in person.

I also suspect that you are right about the play area, but I tend to think it is humans doing the playing. Again, it's just my guess and opinion, and I could easily be wrong.

Nice work, I think your time spent out looking is paying off!
Can't wait to see more...
September 24th, 2009 06:14 PM
narrowfoot Bossburg, Once I figured out how to post pictures, I like the way flickr shows them. Thanks for pointing out the full screen slideshow. Details show up much better. Sorry about posting on two forums - I wanted to point the way to this one, and I appreciate your leaving my note there.

The answer to your question about the origin of the trees is that as far as I can tell they are all local. Some are still rooted, others have been twisted off. In an area not too far away, saplings that were cut as a trail was cleared have been used to build a very large, intertwined structure that is hard to photograph, along with other trees and branches that are rooted or broken off.

The salt shaker appeared during the summer. When I was there again it had been knocked over, and I set it up again, breaking my rule against touching these things. In a few days I'll find out where it is now. It was distantly visible, exactly between two trees, from the window of a bedroom I use when I'm in the area, making me wonder who put it there and why!

Robday, I haven't figured out whether any human children have played in this area. I also have questions about the two structures you indicated, which appeared during this past midsummer. Those structures are in areas where a casual passerby might not notice them, but I am sure to see them.

The first picture shows a very large structure that indeed blocks the way to a group of houses built in the past several years. I suspect that this whole area is a traditional trail from a body of water to a high ridge where there are orchards and cornfields. The trail is narrower now because of human development, but it seems to be in use in summer.

If you look carefully at the third from last picture, labeled 9b in the larger size, especially if you follow Bossburg's instructions and see it full screen, you'll find that just above the stone, there is a disturbed area that appears to be a small footprint superimposed over a larger one. The little possible print in the very last picture is centered in a pile of dirt that I think was spilled there when the stones and salt shaker were placed on the nearby rock. The dandelion leaf above it shows how small that indentation is. The largest print was indeed huge. I photographed it last summer, late in the day to show detail. It was in the same area as the other possible prints, which I found this year.
September 25th, 2009 11:49 AM
narrowfoot I should have said in my last message that most of these structures are within an area of maybe 75 yards, protected by the large x's in the first three pictures. The largest possible footprint was maybe 25 yards from the largest structure in the first two pictures, which has been maintained, and it would have taken someone that large to thrust those trees into that thicket! The protected area is what made me include pictures of the tent like structure and the salt shaker setting, which are within it. So are the small stones in a row, two with sticks stuck in the ground beside them, one with possible footprints beside it. There have been other arched saplings in this area, one over a road. It was cut down by a human. There is also an old apple tree that has long been bent over into an arch, to the right of the largest structure and also blocking the way into what was thick forest and is now open home sites. The private road that runs into the area has various structures along it.

Edit: When I roughly stepped off the area, I found that I probably should have used 100 yards and 50 yards above, instead of 75 and 25.
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September 25th, 2009 10:01 PM
monongahela
Quote:
robday wrote:
Pics 4a and 4b appear human to me. I used to build this kind of thing for fun as a kid. The construction looks too detailed and discerning for me to jump to a BF conclusion, but of course I could be wrong.


Pic 4b looked very familiar to me. Reminded my of this photo:
http://www.bfro.net/gdb/ReportImages/22475e.jpg
from this BFRO report:
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=22475

Certainly the quality of the two structures differs significantly, but the basic architecture is eerily mirrored between the two.
September 28th, 2009 02:06 AM
narrowfoot Thanks, Monongahela, I knew I had seen a picture of a construction with sticks placed along the sides. I wonder whether anyone else has photos of such a structure.

This weekend I ventured into the woods beyond the X structure in the third photograph. The first time I took a picture of it, a large dead birch tree fell apart with a thundering sound not too far away, and so I am cautious in that area. Whether there is anyone back there or not, there are other dead trees. As I walked, I came across a large double tree break. The only other tree breaks I have seen were a couple of small ones along the road, and a few that are parts of larger structures. These two stand in the woods. They are very high and are accompanied by an area of pushed over saplings and brush that make the area almost impassable. Since that part of the woods is the least visible and most protected, I have always expected that it is a refuge. Poison ivy chased me out of it.

The salt shaker had been knocked off its rock again, and I replaced it again. The small stones with sticks beside them had been moved around. There are now mushrooms growing near them. Some larger rocks may have been moved. Otherwise, things were as before.
September 28th, 2009 11:19 AM
monongahela Sounds interesting. You might want to think about photo documenting the area as thoroughly as possible, from known reference points. Then returning later to those known points and taking follow up photos. It's amazing what kind of changes leap out at you when comparing multiple photos taken over time, from the same vantage point.
September 28th, 2009 09:51 PM
narrowfoot Yes, I have been doing that. And then something changes that I hadn't thought was important! Like where a certain large stone was, or just what was in a certain structure. LOL. But I do have a great many photos. In some cases, humans have removed things and I'm glad I photographed them. My son says, stop taking pictures of the woods. He's a bit like his father, a sceptic at best.
October 6th, 2009 12:41 PM
Leatherneck Thanks for posting your pictures narrowfoot. Your foot next to what appears to be a large foot print is amazing. I can see why your code name is narrowfoot.

Has anything been happening for you there lately? Is your area of interest close to a river, or stream?

Mark
October 6th, 2009 11:22 PM
narrowfoot Hi, Leatherneck. Glad you enjoyed these pictures. I also enjoy your descriptions of your place! My area is near a lake. My last visit is described about three messages up from yours. I need to get better pictures of the tree breaks I found. That will be a project for next time.
October 8th, 2009 10:19 PM
un_xplained Has anyone attempted to knock down these structures and return to the sights at a later date to see if they are rebuilt?
October 9th, 2009 01:20 AM
narrowfoot Some structures beside roads have been removed by humans as a matter of clearing things up. They were not replaced (an arch, a tree break), with the exception of a branch leaning into a tree. A human broke one of those, and another one appeared in the same place. There are several of these leaning branches that often look like small trees at a casual glance. Apparently they are important, perhaps as markers.

Weather has damaged some of the more fragile structures, and those continue to deteriorate. One strong exception is the large X in the first two pictures. It has been there for some years, but another large tree, with green needles, was inserted into the structure last year. As noted above, that structure forms a barrier between a relatively safe wooded area and open home sites on what was once thickly forested land.

My impression is that the more long term importance a structure has, the more sturdy its construction. The more fragile structures probably serve a seasonal purpose and are allowed to gradually fall apart.
October 25th, 2009 11:55 PM
narrowfoot My observation area had a storm not long ago that included 60 mph winds. This weekend I found that a few things had been destroyed. The long birch branch and the glass salt shaker in my pictures, which were near each other on a slope where the wind has clear access, had both been broken in many pieces. They were fragile. Another, shorter branch inserted into a tree farther away was lying on its side. But the larger structures were all intact.

I ascertained that the side poles on the tent-shaped structure are stuck a couple of inches into the ground, as are branches leaning into trees in various places. Stabilizes them enough to prevent toppling except in dire conditions. That structure is surrounded by trees, and only one of the side poles was down. I have been wondering about the source of the straight side poles. They might have been taken from stacks of saplings cut to clear a path a couple of years ago. Those stacks are half a mile away. I must look more carefully to see if the poles were originally cut or broken. [When I looked at them again, I decided they were broken off. A short stick props the arch, and, according to earlier photos, was already in place last year before the tent-like structure was finished.]

Since the poison ivy has died down, I revisited the two large tree breaks in the far part of the woods. They are crossed over each other, and protected on the far side by a farmer's old stone wall above a low cliff. It is hard to reach the tree breaks through all the brush and undergrowth around them. I noticed a small hollow under an ancient log and some evergreen shrubs, near the tree breaks. The hollow is much smaller than the one in the link provided by monongahela above, and there are no side poles [actually, there is one side pole, as I later noticed], but the idea is very similar. [There are now pictures of these and other tree breaks, posted below.]

I am saddened by the destruction of things near my retreat that I had become accustomed to, but it will be interesting to see what appears next in those areas. I see no evidence that there is activity now that cold weather is coming and visibility is greater in the woods. [But then, on my next visit, I found a very large new tree break. See photos below.] I found no tracks in the snow last winter. Spring and summer seem to be the seasons of activity, so I will probably have to wait through the coming winter for any new evidence. I'll keep watch, anyway.
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October 26th, 2009 05:36 PM
Leatherneck Good to see you are out, and about narrowfoot. Perhaps, your area is part of a larger home range, and something may come by at night.

I am confident you already do this, but when you are walking in the woods, or before you enter the woods listen for strange bird call/s.

Good luck to you out there,

Mark
October 26th, 2009 08:32 PM
narrowfoot Hi Mark, Funny you should mention birds. On Saturday, there was a very loud cawing right over our heads, with several people standing around, in broad daylight beside a building. I assume the crows were so near us in the tops of the cedar trees that the sound was amplified by the pavement below them. My first thought was that I was hearing something unusual. It wasn't the ruffed grouse that is sometimes in that area, and it wasn't the bald eagle that flew by that day, nor the pileated woodpecker that paid a brief visit. Those visitors were in addition to the usual water fowl and chickadees, nuthatches of both kinds, goldfinches, cardinals, downy woodpeckers, and jays. Sometimes we see turkeys or turkey vultures, now and then a yellow headed blackbird or red bellied woodpecker. White throated sparrows nest around there in summer. It's a good season for bird watching now, and this is a good site for identifying their calls:

http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/songwav.html

We have heard only a few unusual sounds in our area. Once last year, there were very guttural growls accompanied by high pitched squeaks. Something large and gruff was evidently hunting something small and shrill, in a very dark part of the woods. I have heard low, very quiet grunting, and a couple of times something that sounded like a wooden door slamming. But there are buildings around the area, so in the latter case, perhaps I did hear a sound made by a human.

I am sure you are right in saying my fairly small area is part of a larger range, because sources of food abound in the surroundings. Nighttime would be the optimal hours for activity; there are often humans around in the daytime. Very good hiding places exist, however, and I think there could well be protection for very young creatures.



October 30th, 2009 04:21 PM
Leatherneck narrowfoot,

You appear to be very skilled in birds.

Just something that happened to me not to long ago, and I did not include in in my post. Maybe, you can use it in the future.

My wife, dogs, and I were growled at. A deep gutteral growl several times. Plus, whatever it was walked back and forth. Something big. I was scared, and put on my H-harness, cover, and took out my firestick, taking the sock off.

At that point, I heard a very strange bird/alarm call to the east 50/60 yards away. I did not take my eyes off the area where the growls were coming from. The growls stopped.

My wife did not want me to leave the area, but I wanted to see what was down next to a dry creek about 40 yards. She was very scared, so I stayed.

If you hear grunts/growls, you too might hear bird call/calls.

Mark
October 30th, 2009 10:14 PM
narrowfoot I'm a backyard bird watcher. We feed the birds and identify them. A fun hobby. I have known some truly expert birders who have added to our knowledge.

Most bird calls at night would be unusual, though I know you would have owls and whippoorwills, of course. Sounds like what you heard was in the daytime, and connected with growls I would think it was very interesting.

Listen to your wife, and watch your dogs carefully! :-)
November 16th, 2009 06:04 PM
toejam Hi.
I saw this thread and thought you might enjoy these. I have an area where I've found several structures that I've photographed. Not sure what made them but I did have a vocal encounter last year in the area. This one just popped up within the last month. Definitely my favorite one yet. All the shots are of the same structure. I'd love to see other structure pics for comparison if anyone has any others to share. Cheers

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6935.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6937.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6943.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6947.jpg



November 16th, 2009 08:23 PM
PBYodeler toejam

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November 16th, 2009 09:02 PM
narrowfoot Toejam, that's a fascinating structure! Is it large enough for an adult sasquatch to enter? Or is it more a size that suggests a young child could be kept safe in it? Are there any human youngsters in the area at times? Any campers? I would love to know what made that and why! And yes, other pictures of tree structures are most welcome and could be very instructive.
November 16th, 2009 09:42 PM
toejam Just got here and I'm knee deep already eh? Ha.
Narrowfoot, I don't think an adult Squatch would use it as a shelter. It stands about 6ft.There are humans in the area. No camping or hunting. After having a vocal encounter in there, I'm convinced that it doesn't matter if humans are present. I spend alot of time there and have never encountered anyone hanging out except for a walk through. I've spent hundreds of hours in there over the last year. Here's a couple more I've found n there.
BEFORE
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5595.jpg
AFTER (several months)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6775.jpg
The sticks leaning along the tree were added later.
I've never found any evidence of humans.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_6772.jpg
This was found very close to a half dozen or so pines with the tops broken off.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5727.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5654-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5645.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5651.jpg

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November 16th, 2009 11:53 PM
narrowfoot Thank you, toejam, for posting those photos. They are amazing. Something or someone likes to stack sticks along a tree break. The first structure you posted looks like a shelter; the second one looks like a stash of sticks, with the addition of smaller sticks that remind me of my tent shaped structure. Are any of the stacked poles stuck into the ground for stability? The downed evergreens appear to be partially blocking a trail, and you have a tree in that area bent almost into an arch. The large X structure is very like one in my area. It is a lot of fun to see these and to compare structures in different areas. Where, in general, is your place? I'm only wondering about the region of the country, not specifics.
November 17th, 2009 07:31 AM
toejam Your welcome. I wish I took more shots of the tree breaks but it was hard to get a good angle. Yes that was off a trail. They're all close to trails. I'm constantly finding trees blocking trails as well. Can't recall if any of the stacked poles were stuck in the ground. I just checked there the other day and a couple have fallen over. I'll post some more later. It's off to work. Cheers
November 17th, 2009 05:32 PM
toejam Here's a few more. Forgot to mention that I'm in Ontario.
This is the very first one I found
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_4922.jpg

This one is underneath the log on the ground.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5662-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5663-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5668-1.jpg

Another arch tucked under a log
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5669-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5670-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5676-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/mrmike1111/_MG_5677-1.jpg

Whether any of these are Squatch related is unknown. I have had a vocal encounter in there. I plan on continuing studying this area for years to come because of what I've experienced. I'd love to see some other structures for comparison if anyone has any. Cheers
November 18th, 2009 12:24 AM
Barb Kaz Is it possible that when these trees fell (becoming the logs on the ground) that they took the saplings with them, trapping the tops underneath? Or is it obvious that the logs were brought from somewhere else?
November 18th, 2009 10:53 AM
narrowfoot Toejam, the arch held down by the huge log is similar to the arch in my pictures, which is held down by a stone and some sticks. The stone, by the way, was brought from a farmer's walls elsewhere in the area. (It reminds me of medieval cannon balls I saw in Bulgaria. LOL) I have seen other arched saplings pinned down by logs. One of them is part of a large interwoven structure that might be a snare or a barrier.

Thanks for posting more of your very interesting pictures. I hope others will be inspired to post photos. I had decided from the 'Cheers' and the look of the evergreens in your photos that you were probably Canadian. My area is across the Great Lakes from yours.
November 18th, 2009 05:37 PM
toejam
Quote:
Barb Kaz wrote:
Is it possible that when these trees fell (becoming the logs on the ground) that they took the saplings with them, trapping the tops underneath? Or is it obvious that the logs were brought from somewhere else?


Anything's possible after what I heard in there :D
November 18th, 2009 05:41 PM
toejam
Quote:
narrowfoot wrote:
Toejam, the arch held down by the huge log is similar to the arch in my pictures, which is held down by a stone and some sticks. The stone, by the way, was brought from a farmer's walls elsewhere in the area. (It reminds me of medieval cannon balls I saw in Bulgaria. LOL) I have seen other arched saplings pinned down by logs. One of them is part of a large interwoven structure that might be a snare or a barrier.

Thanks for posting more of your very interesting pictures. I hope others will be inspired to post photos. I had decided from the 'Cheers' and the look of the evergreens in your photos that you were probably Canadian. My area is across the Great Lakes from yours.


More than happy to oblige narrowfoot. I hope others will be inspired also. Canadian eh? Ha, yeah you got it. Where are you located? Michigan? Just a guess.
I'm very curious to find out this winter if Squatchy hangs around. Had nothing last winter so it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm still looking for that first print. I have a box of dental stone in the trunk waiting for the moment ;)
November 18th, 2009 08:27 PM
narrowfoot I live in Wisconsin. You can see Michigan from parts of it, to coin a phrase. I also have not seen evidence in the winter. No footprints in spite of lots of snow last winter. But some good tracks were found an hour or so to the south.

A correspondent suggests that tree structures he's found that look pretty similar to your open one are blinds or observation points. He may well be right. Mothers like me tend to think of shelter before hunting and guarding! In my area, cedar thickets would serve either purpose extremely well, which may explain the absence of such structures. In my pictures, however, one structure does look like a teepee from the road, though it's an open tent shape when viewed from a more protected area. So perhaps there is a knowledge of constructed blinds.
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