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December 1st, 2007 12:04 AM
Intrepid Prez

...Flea. (Red Hot Chili Peppers)

(Well... that's according to my know-it-all-smart-assed-little-sister)



Emilie, is that right ??? :confused:



December 1st, 2007 12:32 AM
Angel_Eyes I'm not Emilie, but yeah, Flea met her back in her coffeehouse days. As far as I know they're still friends. :)

December 1st, 2007 12:38 AM
Intrepid Prez

So... was Flea responsible for Jewel's break ???

Like, did he contact Warner/Atlantic Music...
or arrange for her to be professionally managed/promoted/whatever ???

I guess the bottom line is...

was Flea resonsible for setting the wheels in motion
that led to Jewel's first professional contract ???



December 1st, 2007 02:36 AM
bigblue72 I'd say he was a big part of it. He was around alot during the coffeehouse days. But she had alot of people helping her out.....Neil Young too.
December 1st, 2007 02:46 AM
Intrepid Prez


But I think I read somewhere that it wasn't until 2 years after meetin Flea
that she finally got her contract with Atlantic.

(maybe it was in Wikipedia under 'Flea')




December 1st, 2007 09:38 AM
jewelwiki I think a large part were the packed Innerchange House and apparently she was a huge buzz in the San Diego area then. Sorta like a local celebrity.
December 1st, 2007 12:11 PM
NewWildWest I never heard of him helping her get a contract but I know he played bass with her on one of the New Years Eve shows 1998 I think. Flea also played bass and Dave Navarro played lead guitar on the Fritz Creek Store album that was recorded as her 2nd album but nevr released. What I wouldn't give to hear THAT!
December 1st, 2007 12:21 PM
cholm Hey Justin!
I remember on some Jewel VH1 special in the 90's that I don't remember the name of , I think it was the HardRock Live concert series, Flea was backstage when Jewel got off the stage and they showed them talking in black and white footage.
Also- on your favorite cd "Spirit", I don't have it in front of me, but if I remember right, Flea plays bass on the "Barcelona" track. Can anyone check the cd insert and verify that?
December 1st, 2007 01:57 PM
NewWildWest I kinda remember before she recorded This Way album Flea and Daniel Lanois and I forget who else recorded New Wild West in some studio. This was before she did the album with other people. They had a few pix from the session on her site around then but then never heard about it again.
December 1st, 2007 04:35 PM
FoolishGames 1995 I actually thought Poltz was the main person that got her noticed.

And yes, Flea did do some work on "Barcelona." He also played bass on "You Were Meant For Me" from the Letterman show. (it was released on CD)
December 1st, 2007 05:07 PM
Mark I think Robby is most right with this. I don't think Flea "launched" Jewel's career, but they were/are certainly friends. I think I saw him in a picture with Jewel in the studio recording her first album too. Jewel opted not to go with the version of NWW with him in it, I think she said somewhere. She had a difficult time getting the song to sound the way she wanted.
December 1st, 2007 08:17 PM
Intrepid Prez
So... who wins the 5 bucks, me or my sister ???

coz Wikipedia clearly says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_%28singer%29

Jewel was discovered by Inga Vainshtein in August of 1993, when a musician from a local San Diego band, Rust, whom Ms. Vainshtein was managing at the time, called to tell her about a girl surfer who sang at a local coffee shop on Thursdays.

Ms. Vainshtein drove to Innerchange coffee shop with a rep from Atlantic Records, and after the show they called Danny Goldberg, the head of Atlantic Record's west coast operations, and asked him to pay for Jewel's demo.

Ms. Vainshtein eventually became Jewel's manager, and was instrumental in creating a major bidding war, which led to Jewel's deal with Atlantic Records.


December 2nd, 2007 04:21 AM
Emilie Steve explains it in the Life Uncommon DVD :
she met him when she was a waitress and he was playing in a coffehouse...he told her to get a regular gig somewhere...she got this gig at the Innerchange, and the rest is history...more and more people came to see her, word spread quite fast.

I don't know exactly when or how Jewel and Flea met, but I don't think he has anything to do with her signing with Atlantic Records.

December 2nd, 2007 11:45 AM
michaelsjewel I believe at the time many record companies were looking into JEWEL b/c she was a craze at the time..... they wanted to see what the buzz was about....

do i think he initiated her contract? probably not.... atlantic found her based on the craze...not FLEA....

unless FLEA told atlantic to swing on by.... it's pure speculation!
December 2nd, 2007 11:48 AM
michaelsjewel also...FLEA was part of the song..... WWSYS...i believe....

i think he was a bassist or something?
December 2nd, 2007 11:59 AM
Emilie here's the picture Mark was talking about :



December 2nd, 2007 04:52 PM
Mark The 90s was the best decade ever :(
December 2nd, 2007 05:37 PM
michaelsjewel that picture was somewhere.... was it chasing down the dawn? where jewel herself says....this is me and FLEA in the studio cutting the track for WWSYS
December 2nd, 2007 05:57 PM
jewelwiki The caption for the picture Emilie posted in Chasing Down the Dawn reads:

Flea and me in the studio with Chris Shaw, Bearsville, New York
December 2nd, 2007 06:35 PM
Intrepid Prez

OK... back to the 5 bucks...


so my sister loses the bet... it was Inga Vainshtein not Flea ??? :confused:



December 2nd, 2007 06:48 PM
NewWildWest
Quote:
jewelwiki wrote:
The caption for the picture Emilie posted in Chasing Down the Dawn reads:

Flea and me in the studio with Chris Shaw, Bearsville, New York


Wow! That oicture is from the Fritz Creek Store album sessions I was talikng about.
December 3rd, 2007 02:30 AM
Wiggly Tooth
Quote:
Emilie wrote:

Steve explains it in the Life Uncommon DVD :
she met him when she was a waitress and he was playing in a coffehouse...he told her to get a regular gig somewhere...she got this gig at the Innerchange, and the rest is history...



So it was STEVE POLTZ who got the ball rolling!

Makes sense now. :)
December 3rd, 2007 02:32 AM
Wiggly Tooth
Quote:
Intrepid Prez wrote:

OK... back to the 5 bucks...

so my sister loses the bet... it was Inga Vainshtein not Flea ???


Ahem!!!

Refer to above post!

I think I deserve the 5 bucks... simply because... well... because I said so!

:)


December 3rd, 2007 02:52 AM
Intrepid Prez

OK.... what's goin on here ???

Coz when we made the bet, there were only two contenders...
Inga Vainshtein and Flea.

Now we got Neil Young and the talentless Poltz confusin the equation... :rolleyes:
so... who 'discovered' her ??? :confused:


Anyone wanna nominate LeAnne Rimes ??? :lol:

December 3rd, 2007 01:08 PM
Emilie I guess it depends by what you mean by "discover", but it's pretty obvious that Poltz met her and heard her sing before Flea, Inga or even Neil Young...

let's put it that way : Poltz "discovered" her, encouraged her to write songs and play live a lot. while Inga V might have introduced her to the Atlantic people.
December 3rd, 2007 06:36 PM
Intrepid Prez
Poltz was no huge influence in the music industry in those dayz...
and... he still isn't. :rolleyes:


OK... back to Wikipedia: (the Flea page)

Flea has aided the careers of several prominent musicians, most notably Jewel. In 1993, Flea met the unknown local artist, after he saw her perform at a local café.

He went back to her van where she was currently living, where she sang a few of her songs. He described her singing voice as being "beautiful" and "breathtaking".

<u>Two years after this encounter</u> Jewel was signed to Atlantic Records and released her diamond record, Pieces of You.


"Two friggin years" !!!

So... Flea was no great help either... so, it seems Inga Vainshtein had the real clout,
she didn't muck about... she just went about gettin Jewel a label.

Fair enough ??? Coz I've got 5 bucks riding on this. :)

December 3rd, 2007 06:41 PM
MrCC I discovered Jewel...
























































Some time in the mid to late 90's. ;)
December 4th, 2007 01:35 AM
Emilie
Quote:
Intrepid Prez wrote:

Poltz was no huge influence in the music industry in those dayz...



I never said he was...but I'm sure she learnt a lot from him about songwriting and performing.

December 4th, 2007 02:43 PM
MrCC The way I understand it...

Flea came along after Inga. Inga came along after Poltz. Poltz didn't get Jewel discovered and neither did Flea. Inga was Jewel's manager until Jewel sued her and won. Inga was not licensed to act as a manager in California and therefore had no right to collect money on Jewel's behalf and could no longer get a cut of her proceeds. After that Nedra took over her management for a while until Jewel signed with Azoff Management.

The one thing for sure. Devon Aoki was nowhere involved in the process.
December 6th, 2007 07:31 PM
Intrepid Prez



So... who gets the 5 bucks ??? :confused:





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