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June 26th, 2009 11:54 PM
joeecuva I thought I would do a project. I would like to track all white Bigfoot sightings and peg them out. Noting the year and month or season.Just to see if there is some sort of pattern.I do know there is more than one but the white ones stand out in reports.If anyone sees any reports of white ones could you let me know where they are or a report # so I can look them up.

Thanks for your help
June 27th, 2009 12:35 AM
Bossburg Joee: This has been suggested if you want to narrow down a search of the BFRO public database. It is posted as a sticky in the Official forum.

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Many times we've had forum members ask why we can't search the database. A couple solutions were mentioned but they are buried in threads, so MM asked that we make it available to everyone in a separate post.

Here is a sample:

In the google search bar type (or copy/paste):

site:www.bfro.net "blue eyes"

You will get a number of BFRO reports mentioning 'blue eyes'.
Or you could search for "grey"
Or you could search for "1987"

This should help those of you who have specific areas of interest.


July 18th, 2009 11:30 PM
Giantfoot I have a link about a white bigfoot encounter. I'm new here and I don't want to post it in the forum since it's on a different site which may not fly here so I PM'd it to you incase you haven't seen the interesting report yet.

July 19th, 2009 09:35 AM
Simplicity Hall would maybe be able to give you some information...;)
July 19th, 2009 08:05 PM
Andy We did crunch these numbers in some thread or another here...Hall had some info for sure.
July 20th, 2009 09:26 AM
Hall82321 Yes. I'll get some report numbers for you!
By the way my spreadsheet is 95.9% complete. I'm cleaning it up and fixing a few minor issues. I hope to have it out by the end of the week or the first of next week!!
July 20th, 2009 04:17 PM
TP Outfit I can tell you that I've investigated 3 reports of white bigfoots in Tennessee - one long time habituation from the Lawrenceburg area from a number of years ago, one from Obion county - multiple sightings by multiple witnesses over several years, and one from the Cherokee National Forest below the Smokies of a light tan bigfoot.

Those 3 areas are well spread out across the state.

Ronie Powell
BFRO Tennessee
July 20th, 2009 06:08 PM
Hall82321 WHITE OR LIGHT BIGFOOT

ALABAMA LIMESTONE 451 AUGUST 20 1993
ALABAMA ST. CLAIR 8679 OCTOBER 1986
ARIZONA GILA 23358 NOVEMBER 17 2006
ARKANSAS DESHA 8913 MAY 2001
ARKANSAS LITTLE RIVER AUGUST 1944
CALIFORNIA MONTEREY 5463 FEBRUARY 16 2002
CALIFORNIA SISKIYOU 2896 AUGUST 1944
COLORADO BOULDER 15273 AUGUST 1964
COLORADO JEFFERSON 7225 SEPTEMBER 1978
COLORADO PUEBLO 1371 DECEMBER 1982
COLORADO SUMMIT 15588 1960s SUMMER
ILLINOIS SANGAMON 15251 1995 WINTER
IOWA MARION 511 OCTOBER 24 2000
KANSAS SUMNER 7709 MARCH 2003
KENTUCKY MASON 2425 OCTOBER 7 1980
KENTUCKY MASON 2426 NOVEMBER 5 1980
KENTUCKY BELL 2364 1950s
KENTUCKY BOONE 24800 1994
KENTUCKY FLEMING OCTOBER 11 1980
KENTUCKY JACKSON 24131 DECEMBER 22 2006
KENTUCKY MADISON 2428 1973
MICHIGAN BARAGA 23929 SEPTEMBER 1970
MICHIGAN MARQUETTE 2787 AUGUST 1991
MICHIGAN SANILAC 815 AUGUST 1987
MINNESOTA PINE 3801 AUGUST 1972
MISSISSIPPI BOLIVAR 8732 JANUARY 1998
MISSISSIPPI LOWNDES 1344 1968
MISSOURI BARRY 9840 NOVEMBER 18 2004
MONTANA RICHLAND 1695 1979-1980
NEW YORK MONROE 1525 OCTOBER 1997
NEW YORK PUTNAM 11841 AUGUST 21 1980
NEW YORK WARREN 3298 OCTOBER 1992
NORTH CAROLINA YADKIN 3439 1971/1972 FALL
OHIO JEFFERSON 4952 1988 WINTER
OHIO ATHENS 4409 NOVEMBER 2001
OHIO DELAWARE 878 AUGUST 1989
OHIO FRANKLIN 14646 MAY 1986-1987
OHIO GEAUGA 3248 MARCH 2001
OHIO GUERNSEY 4558 OCTOBER 15 1998
OHIO GUERNSEY 8042 OCTOBER 1996
OHIO PIKE 5977 MAY 2000
OKLAHOMA HUGHES 5817 1976-1980 SUMMER
OKLAHOMA COMANCHE 10234 JANUARY 2005
OKLAHOMA LATIMER 8678
PENNSYLVANIA ALLEGHENY 105 SEPTEMBER 1997
SOUTH CAROLINA PICKENS 16962 1981 SUMMER
SOUTH CAROLINA DARLINGTON 14154 MARCH 13 2006
TENNESSEE LINCOLN 6638 JULY 16 2003
UTAH GARFIELD 2115 MAY 19 1994
VERMONT CHITTENDEN 1178 NOVEMBER 1984
WASHINGTON GRAYS HARBOR 1225 JULY 1997
WASHINGTON OKANOGAN 10974 MARCH 1987
WASHINGTON LEWIS 4380 1994 SUMMER
WASHINGTON PIERCE 1730 OCTOBER 13 1975



SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO POST LINKS.
July 20th, 2009 06:13 PM
PBYodeler That's OK Hall. The info you've given is enough for anyone to find the reports themselves. The only time we ask for the links is when we only see the report number. You've already done a lot of work finding and listing the reports so anyone interested shouldn't have a problem doing a little bit of work to find the reports.
July 20th, 2009 06:17 PM
Bill Boqs Hall: Nice work; thanks.
July 20th, 2009 06:59 PM
Giantfoot Fascinating. Quite a few fairly recent reports from 06 there. No shortage of albinos around looks like. Maybe we'll see a new reported sighting soon.
July 20th, 2009 07:17 PM
Andy Anybody else notice that the Pacific NW & California are significantly underrepresented here?

Meaning that either people just don't get lucky enough to see light Bigfoots out there very often, or they simply aren't there to be seen.

But why would that be?

Perhaps it's just genetic drift (like, seeing few blondes or redheads in Italy, but relatively lots in Ireland).

Or, maybe it's that something slightly favors either Bigfoot longevity or Bigfoot blondes outside of the Pacific NW. Maybe the West Coast isn't the perfect place for Bigfoots, but Ohio is?

Thanks, Hall!
July 20th, 2009 08:25 PM
Hall82321 NO PROBLEM! Wonder how the white animal list correlates to Mountain regions & snow fall?
July 20th, 2009 10:40 PM
narrowfoot There is an odd report from Wisconsin, December 12, 1998, Media Article #257 on this site.
July 20th, 2009 10:56 PM
Gazza What about grey sasquatch sightings could it be the same? Or are you thinking of a strictly albino one?
July 21st, 2009 12:32 AM
mooner Thank you Gazza, you said exactly what i was thinking. I would think that an older one could go grey and they might be easier to find than an Albino.
Something to think about.
July 21st, 2009 12:05 PM
Simplicity I would have thought that an actual Albno would be extremely rare to non existent given the ratio it'd be expected to be..

Looking at Hall's excellent Stats, i'm intially surprised at just quickly looking to see that not more Winter Months are there tahn there seems to be..

That would have made complete sense to me..

I guess we're gonna have to go with their age as opposed to Seasonal then huh, or maybe a bit of both ??
July 21st, 2009 12:17 PM
Hall82321 I'm not sure you can equate all white or grey animals to older animals (based on the theory that smaller animals are younger). There are smaller 5' white animals -

I did not put the blond or grey animals in the list (for the most part). There are probably a dozen blond animals.
But color is in the eye of the beholder....
July 21st, 2009 12:27 PM
BethinFL Thanks Hall. I wondered about that question too (white BF and snow) because I see there aren't any for Florida. Must not be a lot of BF hanging out (blending in) on any sandy beaches.
July 21st, 2009 05:50 PM
semi p Hall - How you have the patience to repeatedly compile your data spreadsheets is beyond me. You're a gifted fellow.
July 21st, 2009 05:50 PM
Andy No white Bigfoots in FL might also be because (just to muddy the waters!) the Skunk Ape is a different species.

I think "white" Bigfoots--whether they are blond (yellowish) or white are probably just color variations, because several sightings have old-looking or gray Bigfoots specified. Most people can pick out an old-looking animal and will describe it as such.

When I crunched my numbers last time, I found that a sizeable minority close to 25% were blond/white/gray, implying that it was a recessive trait, just like bond hair or blue eyes.
July 22nd, 2009 06:42 PM
Matt D.
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BethinFL wrote:
Thanks Hall. I wondered about that question too (white BF and snow) because I see there aren't any for Florida. Must not be a lot of BF hanging out (blending in) on any sandy beaches.


I agree. There should be a higher concentration in higher elevations/higher snowfall areas. In my opinion, natural selection should cause white bf's to have an advantage in snowy areas. Therefore, they would have a higher chance of passing their white genes onto their offspring. Any thoughts?
July 22nd, 2009 08:48 PM
arcturus A couple of white bigfoot sightings in Rhode Island too!
July 22nd, 2009 09:32 PM
Ni I was thinking they've simply adapted to their situation. Ie: There are _no_ White Squatch sightings in the PNW simply because there isn't much to blend in with that's white. Ever been to any of the towns on Vancouver Island, particularily Tofino (in which there was a sighting)? Absolute greenery and rainforestry :) . What would be the good in being blond or white there?
The age thing is another interesting idea (in all honesty, probably the more credible).
Cheers!
July 24th, 2009 11:00 AM
Matt D. Well, I got a GIS program for my computer and started playing around with it last night by plotting all of the data Hall provided.

I also found a map of annual snowfall in the US and provided that too.

Looks my snowfall theory was wrong, oh well.

If anyone wants other info overlayed with the sightings let me know.





P.S. Thanks for the sighting list hall :)



July 30th, 2009 12:14 PM
Bill Boqs You guys might want to check out the "Summer of 69" thread on this forum. The posted link gets you to a news article with a photo captioned "related content". Looks like the famous Texas Cryptid sports all-white pelage. The circumstances of the several sightings are somewhat suspicious (IMHO) but, taking the reports at face value, you've got to wonder what selective/adaptive forces would permit a large, secretive animal (living in Texas!) to develop a heavy coat of white fur. Old age, severe trauma or some form of albinism seem liklier explanations.
July 30th, 2009 04:32 PM
Andy Thank you, Hall and Matt D. !!

(I'm a computer nitwit, so I especially appreciate you guys who can do this stuff.)
July 30th, 2009 04:47 PM
Hall82321 That's pretty cool Matt!
July 30th, 2009 05:20 PM
Andy I've had another thought about color vs. snow vs. camouflage vs. albinism and that sort of thing.

If Bigfoot coloration were related to camo, it would have to be:
A. from pressure put onto the population by predators (kind of hard to see in the case of big Bigfoots) or
B. from pressure exerted through hunting success/failure, which, as in other social animals might be ameliorated by group hunting or the relative importance of gathering in caloric intake. Again, kind of hard to imagine.

This would be something like the melanistic leopards or jaguars ("black panthers"), which are found in increasing numbers as one approaches the tropics, where the forests are deeper and not woven in with grasslands.

If Bigfoot coloration has to do with thermoregulation, it would be associated with temperature extremes (of both sorts) considering the body mass of the typical Bigfoot.

This would be more like polar bears, who have to maintain body temperatures in cold areas, both in and out of the water.

If white Bigfoots were all or mostly albinos, I'd be pretty surprised; albinism in humans is mostly from one-off mutations (like Trisomy 13 or Trisomy 21). Only a couple of forms are heritable, and those are rare. Worse, albinism comes with a host of fairly debilitating side effects (in humans).

I put all my $$$ on genetic drift...because that's what goes on in gray squirrel populations...and it produces a map just like Matt D.'s.
July 31st, 2009 12:49 PM
BCsquatch John Green had a book, which I had loaned out and never got back, that listed in short form sightings through out the PNW. The colour of the creature was indicated in the first line or two. A quick glance would tell you the white or even albino 'squatches.

An interesting project.

Go for it.


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