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November 26th, 2006 08:32 AM
mogollonman Experiences with my chocolate lab tell me he knows the difference between class B and class BS sounds. I've tested him using the available sounds on this website and others .
There are several sound clips that drive him nuts, and i also find credable. Call it a 6th 7th 8th sense but what ever they are they know something more than us. Just like earthquake sensitivity. Regardless I'd like your opinion on wheather or not mans best friend should be included on searches for the big guy. Do dogs scare BF ? or do they let you know when he's close ? Should mans best friend be invited on an Expedition?
November 26th, 2006 09:19 AM
MarkT I played clips for our house cat. He did not like them @ all! Displayed very atypical behavior when he heard them.
November 26th, 2006 12:57 PM
ddandrie I would think that would depend on your dog. If the dog is intelligent enough to cower and hide it would most likely not get hurt, however, if the dog is the type that would bark and or attempt to chase BF, you could very well get your friends head torn off. BF, does not like dogs. I have come to this assumption after reviewing many, many reports where dogs were in some way involved in a BF encounter.
November 26th, 2006 01:21 PM
Bossburg My cats have heard both the Sierra Sounds CD's and every clip found on this web site.
Most of the time they keep on sleeping - only a couple times did they go into alert mode. They've been raised in the woods - maybe that makes a difference?

As far as taking your dog on an exped...I certainly wouldn't do that (nor do I think Matt would allow it). There are numerous stories of dogs being killed - found with their backs broken, screaming in terror so why would you put your pet in peril or make it terrified. Some dogs have that 'attack anything' mode and that could mean their end...others would cry and wimper...wouldn't that give you a vote of confidence?!!!

When on an expedition you have more than enough to think about, especially if there is activity. Quiet is essential when you are listening for call backs. A dog barking or going nuts would just hinder the project, change the whole tone and maybe, just maybe turn a positive into a negative.

Of course, these are my opinions.

Bossburg

November 26th, 2006 08:30 PM
D. Freel Dogs and Bigfoot=NOT GOOD BEDFELLOWS
In the 911 recording posted on the site a bigfoot threw the guys dog over a fence, either the flight killed Fido or the BF did it before take off but either way the dog DIED.
There are several other cases where bigfeet have expressed their strong dislike for the K9. The most poignant example was on a repeat visitation site. The property owners had a Pitt Bull. One night they Pitt was barking its head off, then it screamed, then quiet. When the owners went out to check out what was wrong. Their dog (a full grown Pitt) had its neck wrung (sp) while still on its chain.
November 26th, 2006 08:43 PM
HuntedWon Read my first post in the BF/RR thread. My big baby was a full grown 85lb home defense wrecking machine. There is no proof that what happened to him was BF, but the possibility is there.
November 27th, 2006 01:34 PM
captainkillmore My female schnauzer, she knows what they are , avoids them at all costs, avoided a bag of possible hair like it was poison , not agressive, she tried to run and hide her head in my elbow. When I go out at night and try calling them , if she hears me whoop and knock and try a screech she will whimper very excitedly and hide under the steps or under the shrubs, when I play recorded sounds she goes to other end or trailer and hides. She definately doesnt like them to the point of being terror stricken by them. She was left outside all night by herself when we went on vacation , ever since she wont go out at night unless my wife or I go out with her and she doesnt leave our sight. This incident with her was a month after I had my incident.
November 28th, 2006 10:32 PM
MarkT
Quote:
Bossburg wrote:
My cats have heard both the Sierra Sounds CD's and every clip found on this web site.
Most of the time they keep on sleeping - only a couple times did they go into alert mode. They've been raised in the woods - maybe that makes a difference?
Bossburg


Bossburg,

We live in-town, our cat goes outside, but no woods about us. Yes, i think it makes a difference.
November 28th, 2006 10:55 PM
Matt
Quote:
captainkillmore wrote:
She was left outside all night by herself when we went on vacation , ever since she wont go out at night unless my wife or I go out with her and she doesnt leave our sight. This incident with her was a month after I had my incident.


Dang Dude, that's cold! What's your schnauzer's name? Squatch-Bait? Lucky? LOL! :D

I love my dog and have no intention of ever taking her on an expedition. I've read/heard to many sad stories to risk it. Personally I think the reason that these creatures don't like dogs is because dogs are generally the only animals stupid enough to bark at it and chase it. Some dogs don't know when to shut up and I can imagine that would be pretty annoying to a squatch if it was trying to catch some dinner or if it was trying to remain undected. These creatures are carefully elusive. A yapping dog giving away their position is a dog that will likely get silenced.
November 29th, 2006 06:25 AM
Jake Levi If you read the available literature there are a number of reports of dogs being killed and eaten. Remember about half the human population considers dog good eating. Captain I for sure wouldnt leave your dog out alone.

Another point is dogs are surely recognized as canids/pack animals and potential dangers and to be dealt with.
November 29th, 2006 12:58 PM
captainkillmore Well we had expected a friend of ours to come and pick her up for the night but she couldnt make it. Our dog will not go out at night unless we go with her, she will not go outside a 20 ft radius either , juyst last night we put her out around 11pm and she wouldnt go farther then 10 ft away and started barking at the woods then di her business and ran straight inside. Last night I also heard what sounded like my van door opening and shutting a couple of times again. I think there is a bf who likes to make the dome light turn on, maybe a young one or somehting. I heard my empty gas can hit the ground again as if being tossed and I found it a few feet away from where I keep it again. Anyway, my little dog acted as though she was afraid of someting and I did have something wander around outside again. It is time to set up all my cameras and set out some food or something and see if I can get something. Deer season is almost over and hunting pressure has almost stopped completely round here. Experiment time again!!
November 29th, 2006 02:42 PM
UtahBigFootBeliever Killmore, i would love to come out and stay a few nights on your property and do some survelance.

JM
November 29th, 2006 06:05 PM
captainkillmore I have a big yard, you wouldnt catch me sleeping in a tent in this yard tho. If you couild make out this away just drop a line or a pm and we can talk about it. I have a couple of researches checking in regularly with and helping with some equipment and such and there is a BFRO member planning on returning here soon to investigate some more, closer to spring time he plans on coming.
November 29th, 2006 11:02 PM
timidyshadowhider Boy captain, I for one cant wait until spring to hear your report! IS anyone planning an expedition to your land? Now I can stand to get through winter!!!!
November 30th, 2006 10:27 AM
captainkillmore In the early part of the yr while snow still on ground we are going to do a investigation over a day or two. Hopefully get some good prints and such at the least. In the Spring , Eric plans on returning and I think Fred might be coming with him also , again to do a couple day research. Hopefully I can get photos or video over this winter , come late spring or early summer we are going to be moving to a home I am going to put up on some land I have 15 miles away from here. I will still be able to come out and set up cameras and such and lookaround just wnt be living next to em anymore ( thank goodness) .
November 30th, 2006 11:13 AM
timidyshadowhider unless 15 miles away isnt very far for them and they get to missing you and decide to relocate with ya! lol
November 30th, 2006 03:45 PM
captainkillmore That would not be preferable , but when I egt established I might just broadcast at new home and see if any one answers or comes to visit. That would be cool if I could get them to visit that way. Their calls reverberate for miles and infrasound travels hundreds of miles , they might be able to find me and visit that way. The only problem with this is my wife will shoot me if they do come for a visit. I will have to try it tho , you know what I mean?! Just to see. But if any peek in my window then I am going to freak out . It is a case of wanting to know and not wanting to know , you know?? ;)