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December 14th, 2010 11:43 PM
eciccone this is in regard to the latest report added, found here

What caught my attention was this:
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It looked exactly like the same way the ‘Mexican Werewolf’ boy’s face looks. It didn’t have hair around the eyes and mouth. (The wolf boy has a condition called Hypertrichosis or The Werewolf Syndrome. Hypertrichosis means "extra hair" and some believe that it is a gene from long ago when humans were born with a lot of hair like apes. And many believe that is where the legend of the werewolf came from.)


I thought the witness' reference to the sasquatch looking like a human with hypertrichosis was interesting. I read up on the condition on wikipedia and found this case, Stephen Bibrowski, link here

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By the time he was put on exhibit, Lionel's hair had grown to eight inches (20 cm) on his face and hung about four inches (10 cm) everywhere else. His body was almost entirely covered with hair, the only exceptions being the palms of his hands and the soles of his feet.


This matches a lot of descriptions of the hair on sasquatch, 4-8 inches of varying length and no hair around the eyes and mouth as well as the sole of the feet and hands (look at Patty).

Just thought the witness' connection was interesting, perhaps it shows a gene we all may share? What about the other aspects of this report, sasquatch holding hands? Lots to dissect!
December 15th, 2010 01:10 AM
airforce47 I have thought for some time that the Sasquatch may be a lot closer to humans than we have believed. This in just another in a long line of possible connections. Only a specimen body from which good DNA samples can be retrieved will tell.
December 15th, 2010 07:32 PM
monongahela While that was an interesting reference, what I found more interesting in that report was the behaviour described, which I have not read about elsewhere. The 4 squatches holding hands as they travelled together is very interesting, and could speak volumes about social bonds they hold.
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December 16th, 2010 09:45 AM
BFSanctum Other primates hold hands and otherwise exhibit high degrees of social bonding.

This is from an article on wanttoknowit.com

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South American Titi monkeys are rare among primates because they are monogamous. They mate for life and become distressed when separated. They show affection by remaining close, grooming each other, intertwining their tails, holding hands, nuzzling, cuddling, and lip smacking.
December 16th, 2010 09:46 AM
eciccone I can't even begin to imagine the spectacle of seeing four sasquatches holding hands and walking across the road. First time of this behavior reported to BFRO? I can't find another example!
December 16th, 2010 03:35 PM
Andy I think there was a family group seen swimming or playing together, but I can't remember the reference #, and alsoanother with a female (mom?), male (daddy?) and little one, with one of the adults holding the little one's hand as they moved through the woods--but again I can never remember which number it would be...how annoying! Anybody else?
December 17th, 2010 11:55 AM
cabbagerabbit
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BFSanctum wrote:
Other primates hold hands and otherwise exhibit high degrees of social bonding.


BFSanctum, this got me looking for additional examples, and i found some at a great website called "Primate Info Net". (http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/)

For instance, this, about orangutans: "... a common travel form seen is "buddy travel" in which the young orangutan holds the hand of another animal while moving through the canopy (Munn & Fernandez 1997).

(http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/entry/orangutan/behav)

And this, about gorillas: "When together they often sit facing one another touching, holding hands, and playing."

(From page 10 of 16 of: http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/news/journals/GorillaGazette/gaz1990/gazetteapr90.pdf)

And this, my favorite, also about gorillas: "The day Milla was introduced to Lucy, a four-year-old, Milla took Lucy by the hand, literally, and led her off into the 14 acres. Ever since that day Milla and Lucy eat, sleep, and play, groom and travel together constantly. Because they are always holding hands, forcing them to walk tripedally, Milla and Lucy usually lag far behind the others when the group travels through the enclosure."

(From page 8 of 16 of: http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/news/journals/GorillaGazette/gaz1992/gazettedec92.pdf).
December 17th, 2010 09:26 PM
Bukowski Hello and greetings from Ohio, this is my first post and I wanted to say that my in laws and I visited the Cleveland zoo @ thanksgiving. The mountain gorillas were eating next to the glass and I stood there for a good half-hour mesmerized by their size and calm. Their fingers and hands are especially large. My sister in law asked me what I found so fascinating about the and I replied "that there's a creature in America, that's twice the size of these captive gorillas, that live peacefully among us and we know nothing about them.". Scary and fascinating.
December 18th, 2010 11:54 AM
timba @Bukowski

..."that there's a creature in America, that's twice the size of these captive gorillas, that live peacefully among us and we know nothing about them.".

So true!
December 19th, 2010 05:27 PM
Andy And what was the response to that!

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I think that the "Mexican werewolf" description is just exactly the same as somebody in the 1900s saying: "it looked like a gorilla."

--Probably less to do about the animal's possible DNA than a simple & handy comparison to something the witness had seen or read about. It's even been on TV shows like CSI.

A Bigfoot defies description. How do you tell somebody you've seen something that no common "archtype" exists for? You do the best you can...you make comparisons to things others have seen and can build a mental image from.
December 19th, 2010 11:20 PM
narrowfoot I would be so interested in your personal description, Andy!
December 21st, 2010 03:13 PM
Taxfree This sighting is almost 20 years old so the witness certainly had plenty of time to draw comparisons. As such, you get the reference to the Mexican werewolf. I do however, find it odd that the witness did not disclose the posting to her sister (prior to posting). It certainly had to be a conversation replayed many times (at least between them privately).