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December 21st, 2008 12:29 PM
Richman Of all the alleged video footage of Bigfoot,which do you think is the most convincing?The only two that stand out to me are the Patterson/Gimlin,and Memorial Day.The PG I first saw in about '72,and it hooked me right then.And any attempt to disprove it have not swayed my belief that it is genuine.As for the Memorial Day footage,even though the distance is great,the sheer SPEED of the subject is enough for me.Whatever it is,that thing is HAULING!There are other realistic looking videos out there,but most haven't been credited,or discredited on this site.
December 21st, 2008 01:23 PM
ApesAmongUs Hey Richman,

There is a videos, pictures link on the main page of the site, that lists video evidence that BFRO deems worthy of further investigation.

P/G is my personal favorite, some of the uncommonly broadcast footage from that tape is amazing. The most convincing section for me is when the creature is walking away at the very end of the film. No longer in profile, her width is astonishing, seldom featured section of the film, but to see this creature walking away so gracefully, and width of the shoulders is incredible.
December 21st, 2008 03:14 PM
rbirch Patterson/Gimlin for sure.

The Memorial day subject seems to be moving quite fast at first glimpse, but the Legend Meets Science book/DVD show that it's well within human capability.

I personally like the Freeman footage as well!
December 21st, 2008 03:46 PM
ApesAmongUs I've heard Freeman was caught faking footprints. Is that true?
December 21st, 2008 04:38 PM
nugnug
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rbirch wrote:
Patterson/Gimlin for sure.

The Memorial day subject seems to be moving quite fast at first glimpse, but the Legend Meets Science book/DVD show that it's well within human capability.

I personally like the Freeman footage as well!



What you say here is true but that person doing the running demo in he "Legend Meets Science" video was a highly trained athlete. 99% of the population probably could not run as fast as the guy in that video.
I like the Freeman footage as well. Once again, I don;t see how that guy, in his circumstances could fake that.
December 22nd, 2008 10:32 AM
Simplicity PGF by a million miles but one for me that i feel is good is the Marble Mountain Footage..
December 22nd, 2008 03:11 PM
plwilloughby
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PGF by a million miles but one for me that i feel is good is the Marble Mountain Footage..


Never heard of that one - can you point us to it?

Paul
December 22nd, 2008 10:09 PM
MarkBC Here ya go, PLWilloughby. Only screen caps are available on the site, you have to buy this DVD to see the full footage.
December 23rd, 2008 12:18 AM
Simplicity As far as the Creature goes, it certainly wasn't Humanlike, it's arms were longer than ours, it's shape was different & it walked different to us but not like Patty as it wasn't as " chunky " ( sorry Hun ) as she was..

As far as the Commentary goes, i don't think all of those people were in on a hoax. The Voice that i thought was holding the Camera got a few things wrong though & maybe got caught up in the moment..

The Creature NEVER shook his/her fist at them & we couldn't hear it screaming at them as he said it did & it also wasn't jumping up & down when he said it was..

Maybe he just got over excited in his commentary but there are some things that he said that made me feel a bit edgy about the sincereity of it all..

Very interesting for me, unfortunately inconclusive like many others BUT possibly one of the " better " pieces of footage, based on what i've wrote above, that i've seen over the past few years.
December 24th, 2008 02:19 PM
rbirch Oh.. I also think the Don Young thermal video is an excellent one!
December 24th, 2008 10:02 PM
sascop31 My favorite is the Patterson film, too. It's the one that got me interested.
With all the high tech cameras and such, I can't wait till the next "criiter" is caught on film like the Patterson one!
December 27th, 2008 01:08 AM
BruceNY Patterson/Gimlin definitely. Nothing else even comes close.
December 27th, 2008 03:50 AM
Satch Seeker I'd have to say that the Patty Film is the most convincing to me. I would like to ad though,that the Memorial Day Footage is also very convincing. It never bothered me that the 'creature' wasn't as tall or as fast as first thought to be. That,imo,means nothing! The animal was not in a race, and was not,apparently,running from anything, so why would it be running at full steam? Especially if it was carrying a youngster on it's back,which might explain the sudden 'growth' in height ,towards the end of the footage. As for how tall it was,we all know BF comes in all sizes,so to speak. So just because it's height fell within human range...so what?
December 27th, 2008 01:50 PM
Andy I like Memorial Day.

Because even though a person could possibly run at the same speed, the ones I've seen try always go sprawling.
Funny, very funny.

PG is #2 for me...but there's just so much sturm und drang over it that it has lost a bit of its fun.
You know, this kind of stuff: the eyes are too close together/the eyes look made of glass; the muscles ripple like muscles/the muscles ripple like cloth; somebody said he wore a suit/somebody said he lied about wearing a suit; somebody stands to make $$, somebody doesn't, etc., etc.

It loses a little something because of all that.
December 27th, 2008 05:49 PM
NazerOR PG obviously, but there's a new one which is second on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAy0KBOQCj0

Very similar gait, and the conditions plus the fear in the voice of the kids makes this seem very legit. If you were going to fake, why at that distance in those conditions? This one really sticks out in my memory, as far as video of a specimen (the Bigfoot den one is pretty amazing, but no animal in that one :) ).
December 29th, 2008 03:32 PM
Danarchy The P-G film is definitely my favorite. It's the clearest and hardest to disprove of them all. The Don Young footage and the one Nazer posted are the only two others I have no doubts about being real.
December 29th, 2008 04:42 PM
BFSanctum #1 - Patterson/Gimlin footage - The Holy Grail - No scientist has been able to debunk it using scientific methodology in his/her own area of expertise.

#2 - Freeman footage - He admitted faking tracks for research not as a hoax. Pretty convincing footage of a creature resembling Patty in many aspects. Freeman searched for decades before he got this footage.

#3 - Memorial day - Could be a youngster carrying a sibling. Too small for an adult Bigfoot IMHO. Speeds are about half human range. Could easily be faked but why? Plenty of witnesses to this encounter.

#4 - DB Young thermal footage - I don't think it was faked but the subject of the video is inconclusive if you rely only on the footage. The Story is what hits home on this one.

Honorable Mention - The kids on the drainage pipes captured some pretty cool footage. Itís more convincing than 99% of the footage out there but I suspect it is too blurry to get much interest from the scientific community. I havenít seen any research done on this particular piece but would love to see it if any exists.


Iíve read the Marble Mountain report and it seems promising but Iím unwilling to fork out $50 to examine it further at this time. The BFRO report indicates that it is far from conclusive although it claims to capture prolonged footage of a Bigfoot in anguish over intrusion into his domain. I canít offer it up as one of my favorites at this time.
December 30th, 2008 02:10 AM
DeeNol PGF almost always has to be first, i like the memorial day footage. Freeman footage bugs me. If I'm not mistaken he did another filming that just seemed too obvious of a coincidence, and I too had heard he hoaxed prints, correct me if I'm wrong. I like the Silver Star moutain photos real convincing and the possible of mistaken identity or hoaxers is slim to none due to location. There was a film on Monsterquest the Ohio Grassman episode, a white/gray/albino Bigfoot walked into the edge of the camera and into the woods. This was not noticed until later and more less accidentally discovered on the film.
December 30th, 2008 12:18 PM
nancyg
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BFSanctum wrote:
#1 - Patterson/Gimlin footage - The Holy Grail - No scientist has been able to debunk it using scientific methodology in his/her own area of expertise.

#2 - Freeman footage - He admitted faking tracks for research not as a hoax. Pretty convincing footage of a creature resembling Patty in many aspects. Freeman searched for decades before he got this footage.

#3 - Memorial day - Could be a youngster carrying a sibling. Too small for an adult Bigfoot IMHO. Speeds are about half human range. Could easily be faked but why? Plenty of witnesses to this encounter.

#4 - DB Young thermal footage - I don't think it was faked but the subject of the video is inconclusive if you rely only on the footage. The Story is what hits home on this one.

Honorable Mention - The kids on the drainage pipes captured some pretty cool footage. Itís more convincing than 99% of the footage out there but I suspect it is too blurry to get much interest from the scientific community. I havenít seen any research done on this particular piece but would love to see it if any exists.


Iíve read the Marble Mountain report and it seems promising but Iím unwilling to fork out $50 to examine it further at this time. The BFRO report indicates that it is far from conclusive although it claims to capture prolonged footage of a Bigfoot in anguish over intrusion into his domain. I canít offer it up as one of my favorites at this time.
BFSanctum, 100% percent with you on all of the above , in that order also, I've watched the youtube footage of the kids and at first I thought it looked that a fake. Looking at it further and really listening to their responses, I reconsidered.
January 6th, 2009 08:14 PM
Stickwatcher I like the NY Baby footage; it seems detached and authentic, because the camera pans away from the action to scan the rest of the scenery, making it clear that the videographer was clueless about what was going on. The baby sure swings like an ape in the trees. The tall figure adds another dimension.
January 7th, 2009 12:26 PM
easternoregongirl The Freeman Footage holds a special place in my heart because it was filmed somewhat close to where I live.

My all time favorite sound recording is the Northwest 911 call which can be found on the BFRO.

The man making the call obviously realizes that what he is seeing is a squatch but is so reluctant to say it to the woman taking the call. Further on in the recording you can tell how genuienly shocked that man is at what he is seeing.

I make all my friends, believers or skeptics listen to that recording, its a classic!

January 7th, 2009 02:46 PM
BFSanctum
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Stickwatcher wrote:
I like the NY Baby footage; it seems detached and authentic, because the camera pans away from the action to scan the rest of the scenery, making it clear that the videographer was clueless about what was going on. The baby sure swings like an ape in the trees. The tall figure adds another dimension.


I think this footage is interesting because of context. It does look like a smaller primate was swinging in the trees and a larger one comes along and takes it away. There are not a whole lot of stories of Sasquatches swinging from trees but if Bigfoots exist this is a highly likely pastime of juviniles.


But... it is unclear what was actually shot in the film. It is possible, that unbeknownst to the videographer, the larger primate was a human and the smaller a tame monkey of some sort. It's too blurry to be sure and too old to really follow up on.

January 7th, 2009 03:09 PM
BFSanctum
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easternoregongirl wrote:
My all time favorite sound recording is the Northwest 911 call which can be found on the BFRO.

The man making the call obviously realizes that what he is seeing is a squatch but is so reluctant to say it to the woman taking the call. Further on in the recording you can tell how genuienly shocked that man is at what he is seeing.

I make all my friends, believers or skeptics listen to that recording, its a classic!


Funny you should mention this recording. I just listened to this again, yesterday, with a coworker who is a hunter and non-believer. He got a chuckle out of the audio on this file. It isn't going to convince a non-believer. I gave him Meldrums book to read and he says that it is an interesting read. He is about half way done and is open minded enough that I can at least bounce ideas off of him.

January 8th, 2009 03:46 PM
bigfootyes I do not think any particular footage has won me over.
What has is some of the cable specials on Big Foot, seeing a lot of the evidence that is out there. Such as the detailed analysis of the Patterson film, such as people in the show that studied the gait and arm movements, analysis showing the muscles move in the legs indicates it is not a costume.
The various Big Foot type creature legends on several continents is convincing evidence too. How do so many separate cultures come up with legends/myths of the same type of creature?

New to the forum and some of the new evidence I will look into once I get links.

Rob
January 8th, 2009 04:56 PM
Wheellug For me they run in chronological order.
Patterson/Gimlon - especially after it was stabilized.
Freeman - a female carrying an infant holding on front of her. (or is it just me?)
Don Youngs - the thermal fits the profile/outline so well.

January 9th, 2009 03:46 PM
bitman Patterson.
January 23rd, 2009 06:43 PM
Dugger Still waiting on convincing video
March 11th, 2009 04:10 PM
Rimrock I like the PGF stabilized version the best, followed by Freeman and the memorial day footage.
There are several on youtube that have potential but have not been studied like the others.....one of these is the Naysh river video and the Olympic peninsula video
March 11th, 2009 05:30 PM
BIGGUYbeliever Here's the problem. As we all know, no video is going to be convincing enough for some..even if someone walked up and shook hands with a squatch, cut it and watched blood flow from it...NOTHING. The PG Footage is by far the most convincing video....and that video, to be old, what 8mm film (?????) is very clear...just a little shakey. No video is going to be perfect. How can it be..its not like you can jsut set up a tripod and wait for one to walk by. Patty gives us, the BF community, a great insight to certain physical characteristics of our friends. Even from the bottom of her feet...the muscle tone..hair characteristics, facial features...A LOT!!!!!!!! The Freeman footage is great as well. And the kids video is just an example that no conditions are going to be perfect....I mean they can get a snapshot of a Giant Squid, hook part of a tentacle, and bam, the crowd goes wild. But as far as BF is concerned, even after numerous footprint casts, hair samples, physical sightings, howls, stick structures, feces samples, photos, whatever, and were still fakes and crazies to some. By the way, the kids video helped me bring a friend and his son to the realm of BF after his son had a sighting recently.
March 11th, 2009 10:45 PM
wolfman One of the videos I find interesting also is Harley Hoffman's youtube video.Just the way it moves,it is so fluid looking and natural.The thing looks huge.thanks wolfman.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMq_3G]
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