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April 3rd, 2011 01:01 AM
TMac What is the accepted reasoning as to why you hear witnesses saying ďthe entire forest was quiet, no animals were making a soundĒ when they have an encounter. I can understand birds, squirrels, deer etc running into hiding when the big guy comes around due to the fact that he may be eating them, but animals do that most of the time when humans are around also. Maybe not the birds, but we usually arenít capable of catching them with our bare hands like the sasquatch might be able to. Anyway, why would all the insects go quiet also??? Generally if the crickets are chirping when I enter the woods, they continue to chirp when I am strolling around. In other words, crickets and insects donít change their actions unless I am right on top of them if even then. Is bigfoot that foreign to the insects or do they recognize that he is a predator? Is the smell that different??? I donít think a bug has that complex of a brain to distinguish between a human and a sasquatch but maybe I am wrong. According to eyewitnesses something is causing silence much of the time when the big guy is around. Any ideas?
April 3rd, 2011 01:32 AM
cadensp I think its something to do with infrasound (ultrasound?) or some other vibe the big guys emit
April 3rd, 2011 01:56 AM
cadensp wrote:
I think its something to do with infrasound (ultrasound?) or some other vibe the big guys emit

It would be interesting to experiment with projecting infrasound to see if crickets go quiet.
April 3rd, 2011 03:09 AM
Coop Anybody know enough about sound to know if infrasound can mask other sounds?
here's a link about anti-sound being accomplished with a machine.,,sid9_gci906859,00.html

(Edited by Coop)
April 3rd, 2011 12:30 PM
Andy I don't know about sound masking, but I do know that once the local birds fly the coop out of alarm--some while sounding an alarm--all the other animals, large and small, take notice and take cover.

Walk through a field of spring peepers at night. A bubble of silence will surround you; very frustrating if you're trying to locate and catch the little stinkers!
April 3rd, 2011 01:20 PM
Coop True Andy. The NW tree frog does the same thing when you walk through the woods here.
April 3rd, 2011 11:32 PM
cadensp I wonder if the squatch has the same problem when he's tring to get some frogs legs...
April 4th, 2011 12:41 PM
radiodiggle As a kid, I remember sitting in class with a 20-odd kids talking,,, and then suddenly-for-no-reason there is instant silence. It used to happen all the time. I think this 'everything goes quiet' is the same kinda thing. Sometimes the gaps in between words or conversations (or tweets, croaks, chirps etc) just happen at the same time. If it can happen with 25 kids it can surely happen with 3 birds, 4 crickets, a frog and a Moose,, or whatever.

lol,, just throwing it out there.

April 4th, 2011 01:04 PM
yazul42 I have noticed while out hunting, that there are times when I am basically strolling in to my stand and the normal racket occurs. At times when I have tried to be very quiet and sneak up on a location where I feel quarry is bedded down, all seems very still, as if the little varmints want every little noise I make to be amplified so the deer can pin point my location easier. The woods folk know you are hunting and in a stealth mode, their behavior changes accordingly versus a little hike through the woods. I have been in my tree stand and heard the alarm calls from squirrels start at the far end of the lot and come closer to me and then seeing a fox or coyote popping through the scrub. Maybe they interpret bf as being in stealth mode as he comes to investigate our intrusion into his area. I have heard the woods go silent and then saw another group of hunters come into the area to make a deer drive while I was up in the stand. Something always knows you are there, be it birds, rodents, large game or the hairy gent. Ones posture is the give away to animals a good portion of the time.

Good luck
April 4th, 2011 02:39 PM
ApesAmongUs I've noticed this very thing. I posted a while back about abruptly encountering a group of wild pigs, after cresting a creek bed. I know these pigs had to have heard me approaching them, as the ground was leaf littered, and I was not trying to approach via stealth. They didn't make any noise,(strange), then bolted when I crested the hill.

Now I was hunting that day, and was carrying a rifle, but pigs don't see very well. They bolted as if terrified of me, and I fell down from fright, (no kiddin')tripped over a rootball.

My thinking is that those pigs should have torn me to pieces. Had it been light out they may have. Considering it was dark I sometimes wonder if they thought I was a Squatch.

I've also experienced the squirrel warning calls. They drive me nuts when I'm deer hunting. I usually throw acorns or whatever is around to run them off.

It never works.
April 5th, 2011 09:02 AM
Andy This reminds me of when you hear a weird out-of-place noise at night, after you've gone to bed.

You just freeze--you don't even breathe--until you've figured out what it is or that it's harmless.
April 5th, 2011 12:14 PM
BethinFL Andy, I agree with your statement, and that's what I was thinking. If the birds and bigger critters know to be silent, maybe that raises a red flag for the bugs too.
April 5th, 2011 12:23 PM
jmars I'd say the realization of quietness comes AFTER something visually happens. If you see something odd or out of place, then all of your senses kick in. It may have been noise-less for minutes prior to seeing something and you're just not aware of it yet.
April 5th, 2011 01:14 PM
Cotter Another theory perhaps is that when BF approaches a human, something, perhaps instinctual, primal if you will, happens that focuses our attention on the 'out of place' sensation, in effect distracting all of our senses from the normal sounds, focusing only on what is out of place.

The mention of infra/ultrasound could play a part I guess. Your body senses something at a frequency that you don't normally receive input at, then all else is ignored until you spot the BF.

Kind of like when you are watching the tube and the significant other talks to you and you don't hear a word....kind of.
April 5th, 2011 05:04 PM
Giantfoot Ape check your PM I'll be sending you one.
April 5th, 2011 10:50 PM
Big Jim Jr I think it is the combination of smell and the aura of a predator. This can travel or emit far ahead of a BF or person, alerting everything. Every being seems to emit an aura around it. Be it a bird, bug, or a person. You can just tell by looking at some things if they are a danger or not. Even if they are not one, sometimes they may be aggressive. This is the case with alot of birds. You can handle some birds some days, but others they bite for no reason. And the person will say, "I knew I should have left them alone today." I watched a show one time about auras around people. They used some special type of camera and showed an image around people. It was colors the camera picked up almost like heat waves. Based off the feelings of the person the colors changed or expand outwards. Then they had people able to "read" these colors. It was really interesting. There is research that shows babies do not truly see people for a year or more. They think it is more an aura the baby sees. Ever walk into your crying kids room when it is totally dark and they stopped crying before any lights came on? I think in a BF case, they are true predators, like man, and every animal can sense it's aura. That's why we get the feeling of being watched. The aura may be one "color" when hunting, another for walking or resting, and yet others for other activities. In this way it explains why some days you can see or hear more than other days. Your aura is not as "bad". I did a shark cage dive once off Hawaii. The sharks were attracted to the boat because of learned behaviors. The area we were in was where crab boats unloaded old bait etc and the sharks knew when they heard a boat, food was coming. Over the years, just stopping a boat in the area attracted sharks. The guides then tossed a few anchovies in the water to keep them around. While in the cage, they still tossed a few anchovies. The sharks would swim around you in the cage and got VERY close. Close enough to touch. While watching them swim, you could really look in their eyes and see what they were doing. They were curious of us, but did not seem threatening at all. Afterwards, I watched a ton of shows on sharks. Before every attack, you could see it's "posture" change and knew it was going to bite something. It also seemed to me that other fish left just before this happened. I think it would hold true in the BF world. When one is looking for food, everything shuts up because it does not want to be eaten.
April 7th, 2011 10:17 PM
m.lorentz Apex predators..nuff said
April 8th, 2011 12:13 PM
CharlesL What do we humans do when we hear, or see, or sense something out of the ordinary and potentially dangerous? We instantly stop what we're doing, go silent, and listen (and/or look) for anything suspicious.

If we, with our dulled "civilized" senses can do that why are we wondering why wild animals, all of whom rely on their senses to stay alive, do it?
April 10th, 2011 01:15 AM
TMac Charles, I guess my question is if it is indeed "out of the ordinary"??? Is Sasquatch foreign to 99% of the forest dwellers, or are they familiar with him and simply scared to to silence that is?
April 10th, 2011 11:35 AM
CharlesL Or, are all the little animals stopping in their tracks and thinking, "Hush up everyone! Let's watch Sassy scare the bejeebers outa those humans!"

I have this Disney-esque image in my mind of all the animals gathered together, waiting for Sassy to protect them from the human intruders. Sheesh! Can you tell that I recently watched "Snow White" with my niece and nephew AND have had too much caffeine this morning?
April 10th, 2011 05:51 PM
yazul42 I would think that most of the animals in the forest in areas that have history of bf activity, would probably treat bf as another predator and act accordingly. They would sense he is hunting something,, if not them,, and may go silent, send up alarm calls, etc. He would be just another part of their environment, such as bears, coyotes, etc. I believe most critters would head to the canopy if possible, or burrows etc.
It's awful surprising to see a red fox in a tree for the first time and to wonder what got him scared enough to head there. N.W. Ohio , I would say,, is not a home to bf, but I have hunted in areas of southern Ohio that I learned from this site, have many documented encounters with bf. I am far more alert to strange feelings or noises that I cannot readily identify when I am down there esp. in the morning or evening darkness going to and from my hunting area, no encounters as of this time, but I did see some strange limb and tree formations which I asked about on an earlier thread and was told that this can be evidence, but I had no photos to be critiqued.

Gook luck
April 10th, 2011 09:17 PM
JRawk12 M. Lorentz is 100% on the money....Not much to it. Alarm signals go out that there is an apex predator in the vicinity, then they all either get the heck out of Dodge, or observe.
April 10th, 2011 09:51 PM
backcountryco Throw the instincts of other animals' self preservation in with hightened awareness of your surroundings and it explains a lot. When you are in the woods, particullarly at night, you might listen more acutely because of the unfamiliarity of surroundings or inability to see. When one sense is dulled, another hightens. You may notice silence in this state that may have gone unnoticed before.
As for other creatures, they are uniquely adapted to anything foreign in their immediate habitat. Some hide, some get loud to seem intimidating etc. As for BF, he may get silient and signal others via knocks, or woops etc. Woops, like wolf howls, likely have distinct meanings amongst their species.
I would be interested in knowing, if you looked at occurances of Class B's, if there was knocking when activity seemed closer, as opposed to wooping from what could be farther. Perhaps knocking occurs when a woop would be a dead give away of location? Maybe woops are longer/shorter or more distinct for opposed to location of others?
If someone did nothing but study the recording of woops, and looked carefully at the incidents involving each one, perhaps they would be able to ditinguish a pattern of length in association with proximity of the humans who recorded the woops? perhaps the pitch or length of woops is higher when a human is closer because they are intended to warn humans? Or maybe shorter and deeper in effort to warn other BF?
It seems that when rock throwing occurs, it is a warning, or interactive curiosity. You know the BF is close then. To my knowledge, woops don't occur when this close up interaction is occuring though? Huffing, growls, knocks maybe even screams, but not the distinct woop per say. I am new to this so that may be wrong. But do people who have these type of interactions recall ambient noises during the experience? Or do we notice a lack of noise when we are directly engaged in active observation?
Noises in habitats are something worth studying in association with activity, type of activity with sounds, etc.
April 11th, 2011 02:08 PM
Papason When you walk through the woods, doesn't everything get quiet?
It's because most animals recognize the danger of something that walks upright.
April 13th, 2011 08:07 AM
bkearton When the crickets become silent, that removes most of the night time noise and acts a warning to the other animals of your presence.
April 23rd, 2011 03:42 PM
jim_c55 During my experience with BF nothing went quiet at all, the birds still chirped, the breeze still blew, and animals still moved seemingly either unaware of the presence or just didnít care.

What did happen is I became more focused on a specific target more than I had ever in my life up till then and never so focused on one single thing since.

I donít believe things go quiet at least I didnít see any evidence of that. Only that I became so focused on the animal I became LESS aware of other things.

But then again that was only my experience.
April 27th, 2011 01:23 PM
jlseagull2004 I Call it "Close proximity sense." weather it's sound vibration, or just a feeling they get they seem to sense it, and go quiet out of self preservation. They can't possable see you but they can feel you. JMO......
May 26th, 2011 12:46 PM
jlseagull2004 Just another thought. have you ever been at home in your room concentrating , and someone comes in the front door, You don't hear the door open but you know because you feel the very air around you change. You don't see anything, You don't hear anything, but you can feel something is diffrent. You go quiet and listen, and then you relize someone has just entered the house. You get up and go look in the front room and find that your family member has in fact entered the house. This might explain the forest going quiet around a large animal. You can't see it but you feel it's pressense, by it's volume alone. Forest dwellers have a hightend sense of subtle changes in the aptmosphere around them, and will go quiet when it effects the very air around them.. JMO

June 15th, 2011 11:43 PM
radiodiggle wrote:
it can surely happen with 3 birds, 4 crickets, a frog and a Moose,, or whatever

sounds like an animate pixar movie you should pitch LoL..jkjk, just love your choices
June 25th, 2011 03:09 AM
Armydude I have only heard a few recordings where this was very noticeable going from a noisy forest to nothing so it may only be in certain circumstances.
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