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Topie: Expedition Locations
February 1st, 2009 08:09 PM
CascadeMike Out of curiousity, how does the BFRO decide where there expeditions are going to take place? (Example: Not that it is in the cascades, but where in the casdades.) Is it years and years of searching for the right place to investigate? Or is it driving up a random logging road where there are alot of sightings and hoping to get lucky? If you dont understand my question, just let me know. Thanks.

-CascadeMike
February 1st, 2009 08:34 PM
Bossburg Each investigator or team of investigators in a particular area spend countless hours of research and recon to determine the best place for an expedition. The complete critera is in house but you can bet it doesn't happen by accident, although on occassion locations have to be changed because of various reasons.
The expedition organizers normally have at least one alternative location as back-up.

If you don't understand my answer, just let me know....:)


February 1st, 2009 10:19 PM
CascadeMike No, i get it now. Thats pretty much how I thought it worked. It makes sense. Thanks Bossburg.

-CascadeMike
February 2nd, 2009 08:40 AM
Bill Boqs On the two expeditions (to the same location) I've attended there was a recent history of credible sightings in the area. A good relationship with a local landowner and/or the availability of public land (for camping and access to the research site) are also important.
February 2nd, 2009 03:14 PM
brubakej Just curious on what happens on these expeditions. What exactly do people do on these expeditions? Is there a leader that organizes these? Does he divy out tasks or do people go with their on objectives? Are they just like a camp-out and everybody gathers in one location and hope something comes down the pike of interest, or do people meet in a centralized location and then each small group goes to a seperate camping location? Do you have a set agenda that you must follow or do you play it by ear? Are people teamed up by experience or do you just go with your group you came with? How do you know these people are legit before you hook up with them? Just some of the questions I have and I am sure others do too.
February 2nd, 2009 06:05 PM
Bill Boqs I dunno to what extent the expeditions I attended can be considered typical, but, to answer your questions: (a) we had several experienced leaders (including MM in `07), (b) activities/tasks were identified by our leaders and allocated -- as much as possible -- by the choice of the participants, (c) new strategies were developed after daily group meetings, (d) we had a main camping area and at least 2 remote camps and (e) I really didn't trouble myself about whether the leaders were "legit" inasmuch as the BFRO has a pretty solid reputation where squatching is concerned.
February 2nd, 2009 07:01 PM
Bossburg brubakej: If you are indeed interested in an expedition, please follow the links to the specific location, contact the expedition organizer and they will help you through the process.

Here's the link to the Expedition FAQ:
http://www.bfro.net/news/roundup/exped_faq.asp

Not all expeditions are the same - how could they be? The terrain, weather, ammenities and personnel are different at each one. Just reading the notes in the past expedition section answers many of your questions along with posts that people have made in the general area of this forum.


(Edited by Bossburg)
February 10th, 2009 03:13 AM
Satch Seeker Just wondering. If an area that is used for an expedition is not going to be used again,would you be willing to announce the area? Still wondering where the ex-officer and his wife saw the BF decending a hill in the White Mnts. If you are not going back to that area ,could you let us know where it is and how to get there? Who knows,one of us may go there and get some useful footage,etc.
February 10th, 2009 04:03 AM
Simplicity
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Satch Seeker wrote:
Just wondering. If an area that is used for an expedition is not going to be used again,would you be willing to announce the area? Still wondering where the ex-officer and his wife saw the BF decending a hill in the White Mnts. If you are not going back to that area ,could you let us know where it is and how to get there? Who knows,one of us may go there and get some useful footage,etc.


What White Mtns do you mean SS, AZ, NH, Vermont ??
February 10th, 2009 07:59 AM
ravellette Vermont is the green mts. But I was just in the White Mts in NH. The Moose go deep into the woods in the Winter due to the snow and their ability to travel through it. My husband and I did see some strange prints in the snow but due to our inability to climb the snow banks, we don't know what made them.
February 10th, 2009 09:40 AM
Bill Boqs Satch:
To answer your question briefly: no. Given the fact that (a) expeditions usually take place where there have been recurrent sightings and (b) there's a sizeable contingent of the "it's-going-to-take-a-body" crowd out there, expedition locations (even those that won't be revisited) are never made public. It's also one of several reasons why expedition participants are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. If you think it's an imaginary problem try looking at some other websites where killing methods and hunting strategies are the subject of active, ongoing discusssion.
(Edited by Bill Boqs)
February 10th, 2009 06:43 PM
AlanF I think it's important to understand the purpose of an expedition is to interact with resident squatches in that area so we can increase our knowledge of these animals and hopefully obtain enough evidence that sasquatch really exists. It is not to disrupt them, hunt them, or in any way interfere with their lives in their home range. Many expeditioners with BFRO permission return to these areas to continue studying the animals. Sasquatch was there before the expedition and he will be there after the expedition concludes and the people are all gone. We protect that and in a sense we protect him with a fervor.
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February 11th, 2009 01:10 AM
Simplicity
Quote:
ravellette wrote:
Vermont is the green mts. But I was just in the White Mts in NH. The Moose go deep into the woods in the Winter due to the snow and their ability to travel through it. My husband and I did see some strange prints in the snow but due to our inability to climb the snow banks, we don't know what made them.


Also in Vermont too !! ;)

http://travel.webshots.com/album/555098093RyJcXM
February 11th, 2009 08:12 AM
Hound don't know why they say vermont because those pictures are of New Hampshire taken possibly from vermont on I91 but I'd say all are N.H. Kankamugus and the flume etc are places in New Hampshire. Even the sign they show in the slides says n.w. Mount Washington. Actually the Presidential range is closer to Maine than Vermont.
February 11th, 2009 10:42 AM
Simplicity Ok, be it NH, VT OR ME, are these the same White Mountains that Satch Seeker is talking about ??
February 11th, 2009 10:57 AM
Hound Not sure.
I don't see a specific mountain named or reference to a report number, maybe satch seeker will see this a post a reply.
February 11th, 2009 04:17 PM
Satch Seeker It's in AZ. But it's a huge area so don't know location,but after reading Bill and Alan's explainations and reasonings I will not push the issue! They make alot of sense. We don't want people with bad intent finding location. SS