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February 17th, 2009 12:49 PM
Bosco_08 I just watched the Biscardi footage from fox news again and remeber how excited I was. That guy aggravates me to no end. I understand why the article is on the BFRO site, but I can not understand why this clown did what he did. Yes, I do think it will take a physical body, hopefully accidently, for the scientific community to fully accept this animal. These kinds of hoaxes onlty hinder the progress.

I take the poking at me for believing this creature exists, only to be ridiculed by what this clown has done. I respect this organization and I hope with everything that I have, this organization proves the existence of this creature. I remember what I saw as a 12 year old boy and this organization helped me realize I was not crazy in what I saw (through the database). As a matter of fact my area (according to the database has the highest reported incidents in the state of LA).

All I can say is integrity is a powerfull thing. God Bless the BFRO.
This organization is close to the truth and I Hope to conitinue to learn and help them through what they have taught me by their example.

i have been on one Expedition and scheduled for a few more. Honesty and Integrity are rare, but we have found it here. Admins my thanks, you keep everybody honest.

My hope is to out these HOAXERS before they strikle again.

I do not know how many folks fell the same way, but I for one do feel this way.
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February 18th, 2009 07:00 AM
Simplicity
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Bosco_08 wrote:


My hope is to out these HOAXERS before they strikle again.

I do not know how many folks fell the same way, but I for one do feel this way.
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I think many of us would & do feel the same way Bosco but i think it's easier said than done to be honest..

How would you propose to " out them " before they struck again ??
February 18th, 2009 06:36 PM
Bill Boqs By doing exactly what was done the last time. When the hoax became obvious (i.e., when the photo of the costume was released) no time was wasted in calling these guys out. Biscardi's involvement may also have been something of a tipoff.

Bosco is absolutely right: the GA body hoax left a needless and undeserved taint upon our field of interest. Even though our organization can take credit for outing the scam in its earlier stages, Biscardi's little stunt still managed to cause a lot of collateral damage. For the moment, these yahoos may have given our critics some extra ammunition but this, too, shall pass.
February 18th, 2009 06:55 PM
PBYodeler It also did bring a lot of new people to the forum and got a lot of them more seriously interested in the subject. The people that had even a small interest came looking for answers to their questions and we had those answers for them. In my opinion it has strengthened our reputation and had a minimal effect on BF research. The ones that it has hurt are the ones that might try something like this in the future. They're going to go under a microscope long before things get as far as they did with the Georgia hoax even without us busting them.
February 19th, 2009 04:17 AM
Simplicity
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Bill Boqs wrote:
By doing exactly what was done the last time. When the hoax became obvious (i.e., when the photo of the costume was released) no time was wasted in calling these guys out. Biscardi's involvement may also have been something of a tipoff.

Bosco is absolutely right: the GA body hoax left a needless and undeserved taint upon our field of interest. Even though our organization can take credit for outing the scam in its earlier stages, Biscardi's little stunt still managed to cause a lot of collateral damage. For the moment, these yahoos may have given our critics some extra ammunition but this, too, shall pass.


Fair enough Bill but Bosco said let's call them out BEFORE THEY STRIKE AGAIN & if he meant calling them out to Members on teh Site, that's easy as the majority of us have faith in what this organisation says & does..

If he meant calling them out to everyone who was interested in it ( if i'm not mistaken, that particualr week had more searches on Google for the word " Bigfoot " than lots of other stuff that we thought it would have ) then as i said, that would be easier said than done imo, unfortunately...

Ok, WE all knew it was BS from the start, heck TB was involved & anyone within the BF Community SHOULD have known it, but from how i read Bosco's original Post, he was looking for a way to " out them " BEFORE they struck again & that's why i asked how he proposed to do it as it's easier said than done..

PBY made a valid point by saying it brang a lot of new people to the Forum which is great, it may have tweaked people's interest in the Subject which is a good thing but as you said yourself, the stunt made a lot of collateral damage to our subject..

But i'm sure overall & the majority of people just laughed at the whole situation & dismissed our subject as they normally do because of the nonsensical & farciacal situation what happened back then & that's sad..
February 19th, 2009 10:44 AM
Bill Boqs I don't really see an argument here. It's a matter of perspective; kind of a "half-full vs. half-empty" thing. Without a doubt, Nav's early and forceful response preserved and strengthened our credibility. All to the good. My point, though, is this: who among us hasn't -- in the recent past -- encountered a certain amount of Biscardi-related snickering and finger pointing when discussing BF with others? If handled correctly, the Body Hoax can actually generate some useful talking points -- but for the most part it's an annoyance. I, for one, will be glad when the stink finally dissipates.
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February 19th, 2009 11:01 AM
Bill Boqs And one more thing:
I seriously doubt that it's possible to be 100% effective in preventing these situations. To do that we'd need a crystal ball or maybe the assistance of Thought Police. Early detection is probably the key. The best that can be done is to do exactly what was done the last time; maintain constant vigilance and act quickly when a con artist rears his ugly head.
February 19th, 2009 09:34 PM
Simplicity
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Bill Boqs wrote:
Nav's early and forceful response preserved and strengthened our credibility. All to the good. My point, though, is this: who among us hasn't -- in the recent past -- encountered a certain amount of Biscardi-related snickering and finger pointing when discussing BF with others? If handled correctly, the Body Hoax can actually generate some useful talking points -- but for the most part it's an annoyance. I, for one, will be glad when the stink finally dissipates.
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Agreed..
February 19th, 2009 09:36 PM
Simplicity
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Bill Boqs wrote:
And one more thing:
I seriously doubt that it's possible to be 100% effective in preventing these situations. To do that we'd need a crystal ball or maybe the assistance of Thought Police. Early detection is probably the key. The best that can be done is to do exactly what was done the last time; maintain constant vigilance and act quickly when a con artist rears his ugly head.


Yep, that's why i answered the original question saying it's easier said than done..

Agree wholeheartedly with the last part Bill..;)
February 19th, 2009 09:40 PM
dpcote Quite honestly I probably would never have discovered this site if it wasn't for the GA hoax.

Now I check in every day, have signed up for expeditons and look at the forest much differently when I am there.

I really respect the way this organization handled the hoax.
February 19th, 2009 10:09 PM
wmjacobsjr One thing that will hopefully happen is that the media will investigate a little harder before braodcasting "discoveries" like this one. I have talked to others about the incidents that my family has experienced on the property they live on. I get the feeling that they think I am a crackpot or fibbing about it. I have not been lucky enough to see one but, I know these beings exist and one day the world will know what all of us here already know. :D
February 24th, 2009 10:00 AM
Bosco_08 That was the premise for the original post. I think this organization did a great job at calling the scammers out and it is important for everyone to continue to keep skepticism when hearing anything from the media. If it is the real thing science will prove it as it did in the Biscardi case. I just think that everyone needs to be especially watchful with regards to scams such as this.