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March 3rd, 2009 01:08 AM
ravellette I often wondered by reading all the reports of the Woman Scream scenerio that, could it be possible or probable that maybe it's a female squatch giving birth? I know we don't have the answer and it is only speculation however, giving birth natural I have and heard woman who have given birth scream on the shoulder push.

I only ask because every report I read, only states one scream.
March 3rd, 2009 09:36 AM
Gazza Doubt you would be anywhere near a sasquatch birth. Likely take that deep into the woods. Also the woman scream is a common experience too frequent for such an event.
March 3rd, 2009 09:49 AM
PineKnot Cougars sound an awful lot like a woman screaming. So do foxes on occasion.

I have heard both in the Missouri Ozarks, and identified what I heard by the presence of tracks in the snow the next morning.

Based on my prior experiences, I would be very reluctant to assign that sound to sasquatch, unless there was other evidence.
March 3rd, 2009 10:37 AM
msmagnolia33 ravellette...I sent you a PM
March 3rd, 2009 10:47 PM
Gazza PineKnot I think you are correct. The following is a link to a couple of cougar screams.

http://www.angelfire.com/sports/homenest7/fact/cougar.html

We have to be careful not to confuse a cougar with a potential sasquatch voculization. Not sure how far a cougar could throw this noise. Many people who have heard the woman scream sound believe the lung capicity was too large to be a cougar.
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March 4th, 2009 12:18 AM
CascadeMike Wow that was freaky. I didnt know that cougars sounded like that. Ver interesting...
March 4th, 2009 12:03 PM
Tretiak Bobcats or Lynx can give off a blood curdling woman like scream as well.
March 4th, 2009 03:31 PM
Paul Z Also around my area ( Massachusetts ) , raccoons and fisher cats are known to be so convincing with their screams that people have called the police thinking someone was being murdered
March 4th, 2009 05:45 PM
ladyliza Ive heard bobcats scream and i dont think they sound all that much like a woman screaming, Mr bobcat got 13 ducks, 7 chickens and a chick while he stayed around.. But i know fishers do sound alot like a woman screaming...Makes your hair stand on end when they sit in the tree and scream at each other...
March 4th, 2009 10:52 PM
Stan Courtney
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PineKnot wrote:
Cougars sound an awful lot like a woman screaming.


Could you post a link to a recording of that. I have looked using google and find cougar recordings but nothing like a woman screaming. I am not saying they don't, I just haven't found a recording.
March 5th, 2009 12:40 AM
coyotemaster
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Stan Courtney wrote:


Could you post a link to a recording of that. I have looked using google and find cougar recordings but nothing like a woman screaming. I am not saying they don't, I just haven't found a recording.


I've heard what I think was a Mt. Lion screaming. 3 times in a row.
It was a cat for sure, the area was not forested (High Plains area of TX panhandle)

It was blood curdling and closer each time it happened. I was fishing alone in the middle of the night, on a small private lake on a remote ranch. It spooked me so bad I loaded up & left.
"Blood curdling", "like a woman screaming bloody murder" fits what I heard.
March 5th, 2009 07:00 AM
Hound Stan, this is from the link in one of the above posts.

http://www.angelfire.com/sports/homenest7/fact/Scream.aiff

March 5th, 2009 07:00 AM
nancyg Gazza, thanks for the link above. I have heard so many people say that they sound like a woman scream, I've never heard one. That's a really a freaky sound, I wouldn't know what to think if I heard that in the wild.
March 5th, 2009 07:50 AM
Stan Courtney Hound,

Thanks for the link. I have looked and looked for that online.

Now if I can get a decent recording of my own for a squatch screaming. lol.

Stan






March 5th, 2009 08:14 AM
Hound Would be a very interesting comparison.
March 5th, 2009 09:11 AM
ravellette
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Gazza wrote:
Doubt you would be anywhere near a sasquatch birth. Likely take that deep into the woods. Also the woman scream is a common experience too frequent for such an event.


If the BF is more human like, I don't think they would go deep into the woods. When in Labor, you cant go to far because of the pain. And if that is their habitat ie home, why would they travel to give birth? In the cases of the screams, people state that sounds come from other directions too. Maybe to divert?

Just my opinion
March 5th, 2009 09:12 AM
Stan Courtney I think there is more confusion with barred owl screams. The first time you hear one these guys sound off it stops you in your tracks. Thankfully there are very high quality owl sounds to analysis.

The number of cougar screams recorded, I am guessing, is probably pretty low.
March 5th, 2009 09:18 AM
ravellette http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=12825

Here is one link to a scream.
March 5th, 2009 08:26 PM
Stan Courtney I see a report about a scream but not a link to a recorded sound, or is that not what you meant ravellette?
March 5th, 2009 11:08 PM
ravellette Stan, I meant the report showing the scream and the sounds coming from else where to divert maybe?
March 6th, 2009 01:41 AM
S.O. Bigfoothunter Out here I deal with Cougars far too frequently. Their various vocalizations are probably our most misidentified wildlife sounds. I received a call from a gent I knew who lived out in the Applegate Valley who thought he was hearing a Bigfoot screaming. I went out to his house that night and we waited until 2:00 in the Morning when the scream came and of course it was a Cougar.

When that magic time of the year hits for Cougars you will hear some incredible vocals.

I do recommend that people study Cougar vocalizations because they are very commonly heard in the West and can easily be misidentified to be BF vocalizations.
March 6th, 2009 08:04 AM
Stan Courtney
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S.O. Bigfoothunter wrote:
I do recommend that people study Cougar vocalizations because they are very commonly heard in the West and can easily be misidentified to be BF vocalizations.


I totally agree. I only know of a couple of websites with any cougar vocalizations. Seems like a good project for someone to get more recordings of cougars.
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March 10th, 2009 11:26 AM
Andy I can't see the Bigfoot vocalizations as birthing screams.

Human women don't really scream very often during labor/delivery (swear, yes)--and they've a right to, as human babies are often a very poor fit for the delivery system! Ouch.

Mrs. Bigfoot likely has almost painless deliveries.

Plus, wild animals almost never make a lot of noise during birth lest they attract predators.
March 10th, 2009 12:20 PM
BethinFL I wondered about that Andy. Animals making noise during birth I mean. Why would an animal draw attention to itself at a very vulnerable time? "Hi, yes it's me over here, down on the ground giving birth. Come eat me and/or my baby."

I think women screaming during birth is a TV drama thing. When I had my two sons, the delivery nurses told me that I COULD scream if I wanted to, but A.) it wouldn't help anything, and B.) it's a waste of energy.
March 10th, 2009 12:26 PM
Hound
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BethinFL wrote:
I wondered about that Andy. Animals making noise during birth I mean. Why would an animal draw attention to itself at a very vulnerable time? "Hi, yes it's me over here, down on the ground giving birth. Come eat me and/or my baby."




Agree completely. The last thing an animal wants to do is attract attention during a birth. I've seen deer have fawns and not a peep from the doe.
March 10th, 2009 02:20 PM
ravellette If BF is more human like, we are built different and it does hurt. I did hear many women scream giving birth the first time. I was like Bethinfl and didn't care to waste my energy. It was just a thought of the scream vocal.
March 10th, 2009 03:37 PM
Hound Curious if anyone has witnessed a gorilla, chimp or Orangutan give birth. Perhaps that could get us on the right track. .... at least going the same direction.
Someone on here may work at a zoo?
March 10th, 2009 04:20 PM
IntriguedLimey Found this story from British Columbia online....

Chapman Creek, 1960's, surveyors working near Sechelt came through an area of twisted deadfall and stopped short when they heard a woman crying. It was prior to mid-day, afraid to move they sat back on fallen timber and watched helplessly as an enormous sasquatch gave birth, the creature sometimes hanging onto a log where she lay alone in dire straits. By late afternoon her wailing echoed for miles. They watched as she twisted the cord into a knot and bit the rest free from her body. She brushed the baby dry with moss and lichen. It cried like any other but was lacking the hair of its mother. (Cletus Moore, Duncan Vancouver Island)
March 10th, 2009 04:39 PM
ravellette The pain must have been unbearable for her.

Do you have the link to the story?
March 11th, 2009 05:19 AM
IntriguedLimey Tried to provide link but seems some sort of filter that prevents copying complete address onto this website. I have copied whole of the Chapman Creek report so I don't think anything is missing.

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